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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by gundiesalvo » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:56 pm

    I had no idea about the Ska video, that was a nice WTF! moment, hahaha!

    I was never a big fan of El Piojo, but you HAVE to respect what he's done with the team, and it's reflected both in their game and in the way they interact with him. Not many coaches are loved by their team like that.
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by mooyagi » Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:49 am

    Suck it, Group of Death! We're through. :deathhorns:

    3/4 CONCACAF teams out of the group stage. Pretty impressive. Stupid Honduras.
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by X-Thor » Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:29 pm

    mooyagi wrote:Suck it, Group of Death! We're through. :deathhorns:

    3/4 CONCACAF teams out of the group stage. Pretty impressive. Stupid Honduras.



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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by gundiesalvo » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:38 am

    Hahahaha! As a diver I'm definitely using that next time a customer asks me about how dangerous sharks are.
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by X-Thor » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:59 pm

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by Digimortal » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:50 am

    I'm guessing the Dutch players might think too much of themselves and the mexicans might give them a surprise.
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by Feanorgandalf » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:58 am

    Wow what an end to that one. Sorry X-Thor.
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by mooyagi » Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:09 pm

    Really, really tough one for Mexico there. Good on Costa Rica for advancing.
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by X-Thor » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:55 pm

    Sneijder and Robben are now up there with Maxi Rodríguez in my "Players I passionately hate for no other reason than kicking us out of the world cup" list.

    Still, I'm very proud of the team. I was expecting they would make a ridiculous, terrible world cup, but they were brave and played awesomely. Perhaps if we'd faced another rival, we would have advanced. Oh well.
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by mooyagi » Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:41 pm

    X-Thor wrote:Still, I'm very proud of the team. I was expecting they would make a ridiculous, terrible world cup, but they were brave and played awesomely. Perhaps if we'd faced another rival, we would have advanced. Oh well.


    Yup. Wasn't expecting anything out of Mexico this time. Especially since it took a miracle for them to even make it to Brazil. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE--yWohZro
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by gundiesalvo » Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:04 am

    X-Thor wrote:Sneijder and Robben are now up there with Maxi Rodríguez in my "Players I passionately hate for no other reason than kicking us out of the world cup" list.

    Still, I'm very proud of the team. I was expecting they would make a ridiculous, terrible world cup, but they were brave and played awesomely. Perhaps if we'd faced another rival, we would have advanced. Oh well.


    It seems the players keep forgetting the game ends when the ref whistles, and that they shouldn't stop playing until then. Also, Robben's last dive was a dick move. Shame on him.
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by X-Thor » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:57 am

    gundiesalvo wrote:
    X-Thor wrote:Sneijder and Robben are now up there with Maxi Rodríguez in my "Players I passionately hate for no other reason than kicking us out of the world cup" list.

    Still, I'm very proud of the team. I was expecting they would make a ridiculous, terrible world cup, but they were brave and played awesomely. Perhaps if we'd faced another rival, we would have advanced. Oh well.


    It seems the players keep forgetting the game ends when the ref whistles, and that they shouldn't stop playing until then. Also, Robben's last dive was a dick move. Shame on him.


    I was half rooting for Rafa Márquez to go and break Robben's leg after the penalty. :lol:
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by Feanorgandalf » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:24 am

    I personally have huge issues with penalty kicks in stoppage time. More often then not it is handing over a win. Happened in the Greece vs ivory coast game and at the Mexico game. I think they have a place and if it's a blatantly obvious penalty it's fair. Something like the one yesterday just doesn't make sense. Should have been a free kick with a yellow card
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by mooyagi » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:47 am

    X-Thor wrote:
    gundiesalvo wrote:
    X-Thor wrote:Sneijder and Robben are now up there with Maxi Rodríguez in my "Players I passionately hate for no other reason than kicking us out of the world cup" list.

    Still, I'm very proud of the team. I was expecting they would make a ridiculous, terrible world cup, but they were brave and played awesomely. Perhaps if we'd faced another rival, we would have advanced. Oh well.


    It seems the players keep forgetting the game ends when the ref whistles, and that they shouldn't stop playing until then. Also, Robben's last dive was a dick move. Shame on him.


    I was half rooting for Rafa Márquez to go and break Robben's leg after the penalty. :lol:


    I would love, for once, to see a player run up to the diver after the call, clobber them then turn to the ref yelling, "Now THAT'S a fucking foul!" :twisted:
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by klons » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:41 pm

    X-Thor wrote:
    gundiesalvo wrote:
    X-Thor wrote:Sneijder and Robben are now up there with Maxi Rodríguez in my "Players I passionately hate for no other reason than kicking us out of the world cup" list.

    Still, I'm very proud of the team. I was expecting they would make a ridiculous, terrible world cup, but they were brave and played awesomely. Perhaps if we'd faced another rival, we would have advanced. Oh well.


    It seems the players keep forgetting the game ends when the ref whistles, and that they shouldn't stop playing until then. Also, Robben's last dive was a dick move. Shame on him.


    I was half rooting for Rafa Márquez to go and break Robben's leg after the penalty. :lol:


    Only half? :lol: That's like me saying that I hope Suarez goes to Barca and tries to bite Pepe!

    I'm amazed (but not really...) that FIFA aren't going to do anything after he admitted to diving earlier in the game. More referees need to grow the balls to punish for simulation.
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    by X-Thor » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:59 pm

    klons wrote:
    Only half? :lol: That's like me saying that I hope Suarez goes to Barca and tries to bite Pepe!



    The fight between Pepe and Suárez is the only reason I'm not 100% against Barca hiring him for next year. Seriously, can you imagine the level of violence in that match? :lol: :lol:
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by X-Thor » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:02 pm

    Also, I'm talking out of resentment here, but I seriously hope Netherlands is thoroughly humilliated at some point in this world cup. Hopefully by Costa Rica. :mrgreen:

    Or, you know, they could win the world cup. That'd be cool, too. "Sure, we lost in the round of 16, but we were kicked out by the champion..." ;)

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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by Digimortal » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:16 pm

    I'd go for that second option lol.

    But well, all in all the match was not a good one for the ref. Both sides had some dirty fouls and The Netherlands could have gotten 2 penalties in the first half of the match.
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    by X-Thor » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:35 pm

    Digimortal wrote:I'd go for that second option lol.

    But well, all in all the match was not a good one for the ref. Both sides had some dirty fouls and The Netherlands could have gotten 2 penalties in the first half of the match.


    Absolutely agree. The referees have been shameful throughout the world cup. :?

    And yes, that was a clear penalty. When will FIFA start adopting technologies?
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by Digimortal » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:57 pm

    I think I have only seen one or two matches in which the refs did a good job.

    And technologies in soccer? Probably never, there is too much dirty money in it anyway.
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by NuuX » Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:26 am

    How many of you here have ever played football? It's easy to be a smart ass sitting in a couch with beer in one hand and a bowl of potato chips in the other hand while watching 100532 replays from different angle. When you have to make a decision in a split second the ref will evaluate things from *HIS* point of view, not from the point of view of the zoomed in camera. In my book it took balls of steel to blow the penalty there because from ref's point of view it looks like Marquez stepped on the toes of Robben. Proenca is one of the best refs in the world and I highly doubt it he blew the whistle "just to send Mexico home" or because he's European.
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by Dutchguy-Tim » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:37 am

    this was my best weekend ever.
    went to graspop on Thursday where i watched the red devils win from south korea
    i really hope they will make it to the semi finals

    the match against mexico was too close for comfort.
    and yeah. the last penalty was no penalty.
    but then again. we should had one in the first half for which that defender should have gotten a red card.
    that was on oblivious attempt to kick robber out of the game (2 legs)

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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by gundiesalvo » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:58 am

    NuuX wrote:How many of you here have ever played football? It's easy to be a smart ass sitting in a couch with beer in one hand and a bowl of potato chips in the other hand while watching 100532 replays from different angle. When you have to make a decision in a split second the ref will evaluate things from *HIS* point of view, not from the point of view of the zoomed in camera. In my book it took balls of steel to blow the penalty there because from ref's point of view it looks like Marquez stepped on the toes of Robben. Proenca is one of the best refs in the world and I highly doubt it he blew the whistle "just to send Mexico home" or because he's European.


    I agree, some times there are tough choices, but you can't honestly say the ref did a good job. There were two REAL penalties that he overlooked, Marquez kicking Robbem from behind and then the blatant kick in Herrera's face. Not to mention the lack of cards (both ways, but mostly for Holland).
    Mexico lost the game on their own, they stopped doing what was working which was controlling the ball and setting their own rhythm. Also the last "cooling break" (which I think was bullshit) broke Mexico's pace even further and then the Dutch took over. If the game had gone to overtime with the min. 87 goal it would've been a very different deal.
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by X-Thor » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:47 am

    NuuX wrote:How many of you here have ever played football? It's easy to be a smart ass sitting in a couch with beer in one hand and a bowl of potato chips in the other hand while watching 100532 replays from different angle. When you have to make a decision in a split second the ref will evaluate things from *HIS* point of view, not from the point of view of the zoomed in camera. In my book it took balls of steel to blow the penalty there because from ref's point of view it looks like Marquez stepped on the toes of Robben. Proenca is one of the best refs in the world and I highly doubt it he blew the whistle "just to send Mexico home" or because he's European.


    But, uhm, that's the point. That's why refs make mistakes. They make calls based on their subjective point of view, and FIFA refuses to allow for technology to confirm their calls. It's ridiculous that JUST NOW they accepted goal-line technology. How many matches, just in this world cup, were decided by bad referee calls? Bosnia got kicked out because they got a legitimate goal anulled due to an inexistent offside. Remember the "penalty" in Croatia vs Brazil, Suárez not getting a card after biting Chellini... This world cup is awesome, yes, but the refereeing is still terrible and it wont' stop being awful until they allow a bit more of technology to ensure the rightness of dubious calls.

    I don't think Proenca did it to fuck up Mexico, but, well... Look at it this way: we got two legitimate goals annulled because of the whims of a (probably blind) judge, then two clear penalties weren't called in the match vs Croatia... And the refereeing vs Brasil was also slightly in their favor... So it's kind of hard not to blame the ref when the game is decided after a very dubious penalty. Especially when two very clear ones (one for each side) weren't called in the first half...

    That being said, the thing I liked the most about this Mexican team was how they didn't let the referees get in their heads. "Oh, you won't give me two legitimate goals? Here's another." "You won't call that clear penalty? That's OK, we'll score three goals." So, yeah, blaming just the ref (or Robben, for that matter) is kinda lame and (I think) below the attitude the team showed this world cup. In the end, like gundieslavo said, Mexico gave the match away (why the hell would you put Aquino in the game and take out Dos Santos??) and tried to keep the score as it was, instead of trying to increase the diference. You can't do that versus teams like Netherlands, and we paid the price of the mistake. :cry:

    (I still hate Robben, though :P )
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by Dutchguy-Tim » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:17 am

    btw, i also agree there should be more use of technological help.
    the 4th official does not do anything much right now besides holding up boards for substitutes and extra time, so this would be a good job for him and inform the first official
    i that case holland wouldn't have gotten 2 unfair penalty's against (spain and australia) and i also remember a foul in the finales against spain which cost us the game

    i can understand why people hate robben with trying to get penalty's. but i think he's a great (team)player
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    by X-Thor » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:31 am

    Dutchguy-Tim wrote:i can understand why people hate robben with trying to get penalty's. but i think he's a great (team)player


    Oh, I just hate him because he's responsible for the penalty that costed us going out. Just like I hate Maxi Rodríguez, from Argentina.

    I agree that Robben is one of the best players alive.
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by X-Thor » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:19 pm

    Go, team 'Murrica!

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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by X-Thor » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:35 pm

    Shame! Impressive goalkeeping by Howard, though. And I still don't understand how that free kick didn't go in.
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by mooyagi » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:35 pm

    Tim Howard deserved better. What a performance by him. That could have been an absolute blowout. Belgium just kept coming.

    Also, dammit Wondo!
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by mooyagi » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:44 pm

    X-Thor wrote:Shame! Impressive goalkeeping by Howard, though. And I still don't understand how that free kick didn't go in.


    That was a fantastic set play. Shame it didn't get a good result.
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by X-Thor » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:50 pm

    mooyagi wrote:Tim Howard deserved better. What a performance by him. That could have been an absolute blowout. Belgium just kept coming.

    Also, dammit Wondo!


    That poor man is going to have nightmares for a lifetime, just reliving that fail.
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by Dutchguy-Tim » Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:02 am

    that was one of the most entertaining 0-0 I have ever seen
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by klons » Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:37 am

    No games today? What is this!?! As such, boredom quotes!

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    Brazil coach Luiz Felipe Scolari hasn't banned it, but will monitor it. He said: 'The players can have normal sex during the World Cup. Usually normal sex is done in balanced way, but there are certain forms, certain ways and others who do acrobatics. We will put limits and survey the players.'
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by X-Thor » Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:04 pm

    klons wrote:No games today? What is this!?! As such, boredom quotes!

    Of the sides that banned sex - Spain, Russia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Chile and Mexico - none made it past the last 16.


    Brazil coach Luiz Felipe Scolari hasn't banned it, but will monitor it. He said: 'The players can have normal sex during the World Cup. Usually normal sex is done in balanced way, but there are certain forms, certain ways and others who do acrobatics. We will put limits and survey the players.'


    Filipao sounds like a perv.
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by Stained Class » Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:16 pm

    What if they don't wanna have normal sex?
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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by viathyn » Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:36 pm

    I'm 8 for 8 in my world cup pool so far. (We started it late last week for the final 16).

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    Re: World Cup Brasil 2014

    by klons » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:51 pm

    I like how Scolari said he'd "monitor" it. :boobs:
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    by X-Thor » Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:05 pm

    viathyn wrote:I'm 8 for 8 in my world cup pool so far. (We started it late last week for the final 16).

    Gonna win some cash.


    Same here. I suspect the Germany-France will be the decisive match of the cup...
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