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    Unfamiliar with a band on the 2012 tour?

    by Dude Number 1 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:57 am

    It would be nice to have a thread to steer you to that ONE cd that you just have to have from a band. I'll start

    If you are unfamiliar with Therion I would tell you to get Sirius B. They tend to stay away form their early hard stuff live. They also evolve pretty drastically but my favorite period from therion was Sirius B and Mats Levén did awesome vocals on this CD.

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    Re: Unfamiliar with a band on the 2012 tour?

    by DrinkMoxie » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:00 pm

    Theli was ever so delightfully bombastic
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    Re: Unfamiliar with a band on the 2012 tour?

    by Dude Number 1 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:04 pm

    I too am a big fan of Theli AND it almost won my vote as the ONE Therion CD but I had to go with Sirius B.

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    Re: Unfamiliar with a band on the 2012 tour?

    by DrinkMoxie » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:06 pm

    well, Deggial and Vovin are still up there (butter than Sirius B, in my opinion)... but Sirius B is good
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    Re: Unfamiliar with a band on the 2012 tour?

    by Ravenlord » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:07 pm

    Dude Number 1 wrote:If you are unfamiliar with Therion I would tell you to get Sirius B. They tend to stay away form their early hard stuff live. They also evolve pretty drastically but my favorite period from therion was Sirius B and Mats Levén did awesome vocals on this CD.


    Much appreciated. I've recently been getting into Mats Levén's work like Abstrakt Algebra, Krux and At Vance (had albums for years and never knew who he was)

    Have yet to get to Therion but I will certainly check out Sirius B when I do.
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    Re: Unfamiliar with a band on the 2012 tour?

    by Stained Class » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:08 pm

    Good idea. I'll do Stratovarius:
    The only albums that matter by them are (chronologically):

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    Feel free to argue with me but there are only a handful of songs outside of those albums that are good (Fourth Dimension has a couple, same as Elements Pt. 1). Intermission is good too, it's a compilation of B-sides, covers and live tracks. Looking at those albums the further back you go the more speedy it is and less progressive it gets, it all has a neoclassical flavour though. Timo Tolkki's style is a blatant ripoff of Yngwie Malmsteen, if you pay attention you'll notice plagiarism all over the place. He even plagiarises himself a few times. I'm really glad he's not in the band anymore :lol: Starting with Polaris they had a new guitarist who came out of nowhere and kicked ass. He even does a fair share of the writing, giving them a more modern sound on those albums.
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    by Dude Number 1 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:14 pm

    I will argue that Mats Levén, and the Niemann brothers were a great mix that put Surius B ahead of both Vovin and Theli. What I am not going to mention is that all three of those dudes did work on Gothic Kabbalah as well and neither you or I are propping that album up. :?
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    by Dude Number 1 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:17 pm

    Stained Class wrote:Good idea. I'll do Stratovarius:
    The only albums that matter by them are (chronologically):

    Episode
    Visions
    Destiny
    Infinite
    Polaris
    Elysium

    Feel free to argue with me but there are only a handful of songs outside of those albums that are good (Fourth Dimension has a couple, same as Elements Pt. 1). Intermission is good too, it's a compilation of B-sides, covers and live tracks. Looking at those albums the further back you go the more speedy it is and less progressive it gets, it all has a neoclassical flavour though. Timo Tolkki's style is a blatant ripoff of Yngwie Malmsteen, if you pay attention you'll notice plagiarism all over the place. He even plagiarises himself a few times. I'm really glad he's not in the band anymore :lol: Starting with Polaris they had a new guitarist who came out of nowhere and kicked ass. He even does a fair share of the writing, giving them a more modern sound on those albums.


    I vote for Episode. "Father Time", "Will the Sun Rise", "Speed of Light" all some of my favorite Stratovarius tunes.
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    Re: Unfamiliar with a band on the 2012 tour?

    by Dude Number 1 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:23 pm

    How do we keep track of this?

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    Stained Class please choose only ONE Startovarius. Hey dude I didn't make the rules here its just how it is. ... well ok I did make the rules.
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    by MadameLePink » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:25 pm

    If you are unfamiliar with Moonsorrow, then I'll recommend to start with Voimasta Ja Kunniasta, their second album. A few of their biggest hits are there: "Kylän Pässää", "Sankarihauta" and "Sankaritarina".

    It takes some work to get into their music and most of their songs are extremely long (several are over 20 minutes), but they grow on you after a while :)
    If you like Voimasta Ja Kunniasta, then you can go on with Kivenkantaja, Suden Uni and the newest one Varjoina Kuljemme Kuolleiden Maassa :)

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    by KevinP » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:00 pm

    My Dying Bride - it's like saying do you want to sleep with the porn star, the stripper or that uber hot chick over there. Hard to go wrong with most of their material.

    Just stay away (at least initially) from the street ho or the Hooters Waitress (Like Gods of the Sun & 34.78888%). Those are okay albums and have some good stuff on them, but they pale in comparison to the rest.
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    by DrinkMoxie » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:15 pm

    KevinP wrote:My Dying Bride - it's like saying do you want to sleep with the porn star, the stripper or that uber hot chick over there. Hard to go wrong with most of their material.

    Just stay away (at least initially) from the street ho or the Hooters Waitress (Like Gods of the Sun & 34.78888%). Those are okay albums and have some good stuff on them, but they pale in comparison to the rest.


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    by Ravenlord » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:24 pm

    Only Hooters Waitress I encountered didn't speak english but she managed to bring me beers. It all worked out in the end.
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    by Stained Class » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:53 pm

    Oh I didn't even read the one cd thing It hought it was just a crash course on these bands. Ummmmmmm...Episode but it was REALLY hard call as I love all 6 of the ones I mentioned.
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    by BierVulf » Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:36 pm

    I'll start off the Coroner ramble....
    The old stuff is by far the most popular e.g. : RIP and No More Color.
    Two very fine albums but the must have, I'd say, is Mental Vortex.
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    by KevinP » Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:57 pm

    BierVulf wrote:I'll start off the Coroner ramble....
    The old stuff is by far the most popular e.g. : RIP and No More Color.
    Two very fine albums but the must have, I'd say, is Mental Vortex.
    GOOD GOOD stuff :headbanger:


    No More Color is the perfect blend of the old and new. I love Mentax Vortex, but it just can't go toe to toe with NMC to me :mrgreen:
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    by KDibildeaux » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:25 pm

    For Therion my vote goes to vovin
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    by BierVulf » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:33 pm

    KevinP wrote:
    BierVulf wrote:I'll start off the Coroner ramble....
    The old stuff is by far the most popular e.g. : RIP and No More Color.
    Two very fine albums but the must have, I'd say, is Mental Vortex.
    GOOD GOOD stuff :headbanger:


    No More Color is the perfect blend of the old and new. I love Mentax Vortex, but it just can't go toe to toe with NMC to me :mrgreen:


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    by mooyagi » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:19 pm

    Eluveitie: Slania
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    by DrinkMoxie » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:20 pm

    KDibildox wrote:For Therion my vote goes to vovin

    solid choice, def. in my top 3
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    by Ecliptica » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:24 pm

    Moonsorrow's best album is still Suden Uni, in my opinion.

    And seconding 'Slania' by Eluveitie. I'd say one of my favorite YouTube videos ever is Eluveitie performing "Gray Sublime Archon" at Summer Nights Open Air: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw00ZFcRbSE
    If they perform this anywhere near as good as this video, I will already say it will be the performance of the cruise.

    And I actually prefer 'Gothic Kabbalah' by Therion, but I feel like I may be in a huge minority here.
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    by mooyagi » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:32 pm

    Ecliptica wrote:And I actually prefer 'Gothic Kabbalah' by Therion, but I feel like I may be in a huge minority here.

    The two of us make up that entire minority :lol:
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    by Deathbringer » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:37 pm

    Voimasta... by Moonsorrow is great, but so is their entire catalog. Start with that, or Suden Uni.
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    by DrinkMoxie » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:22 am

    Ecliptica wrote:Moonsorrow's best album is still Suden Uni, in my opinion.

    And seconding 'Slania' by Eluveitie. I'd say one of my favorite YouTube videos ever is Eluveitie performing "Gray Sublime Archon" at Summer Nights Open Air: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw00ZFcRbSE
    If they perform this anywhere near as good as this video, I will already say it will be the performance of the cruise.

    And I actually prefer 'Gothic Kabbalah' by Therion, but I feel like I may be in a huge minority here.


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    Re: Unfamiliar with a band on the 2012 tour?

    by Deathbringer » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:24 am

    BTW doesn't this thread negate all the other singular on-broad band threads posted by same dude? :shock:
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    by KevinP » Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:46 am

    Deathbringer wrote:BTW doesn't this thread negate all the other singular on-broad band threads posted by same dude? :shock:


    Yes, but such is life. But we have to be nice to the newbies :mrgreen:
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    Re: Unfamiliar with a band on the 2012 tour?

    by kvanderwyk » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:03 pm

    So am I the only one who thinks Verisäkeet is Moonsorrow's best album? Evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DjnTkDAF0E
    Closely followed by Kivenkantaja.

    For Eluveitie I'd go with Slania too.
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    Re: Unfamiliar with a band on the 2012 tour?

    by Devils Advocate » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:24 am

    BierVulf wrote:
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    BierVulf wrote:I'll start off the Coroner ramble....
    The old stuff is by far the most popular e.g. : RIP and No More Color.
    Two very fine albums but the must have, I'd say, is Mental Vortex.
    GOOD GOOD stuff :headbanger:


    No More Color is the perfect blend of the old and new. I love Mentax Vortex, but it just can't go toe to toe with NMC to me :mrgreen:


    I'll continue the Coroner ramble and throw 'Punishment for Decadence' into the mix :shred:
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    Re: Unfamiliar with a band on the 2012 tour?

    by Deathbringer » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:13 am

    kvanderwyk wrote:So am I the only one who thinks Verisäkeet is Moonsorrow's best album? Evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DjnTkDAF0E
    Closely followed by Kivenkantaja.

    For Eluveitie I'd go with Slania too.


    It's really a tough call. I think all are about equally as good.
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    by kvanderwyk » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:01 am

    Devils Advocate wrote:I'll continue the Coroner ramble and throw 'Punishment for Decadence' into the mix :shred:

    Never listened to Coroner before and I threw on Punishment for Decadence the other day, it was solid! Nice avatar too Devils. :headbanger:
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    by KevinP » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:07 am

    kvanderwyk wrote:
    Devils Advocate wrote:I'll continue the Coroner ramble and throw 'Punishment for Decadence' into the mix :shred:

    Never listened to Coroner before and I threw on Punishment for Decadence the other day, it was solid! Nice avatar too Devils. :headbanger:


    While I find it hard to be nice to anyone or thing from Boston (hatred of the Red Sox and all that jazz), check out NO MORE COLOR & MENNTAL VORTEX, you'll probably enjoy albums more than Punishment and RIP. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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    by kvanderwyk » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:14 am

    KevinP wrote:
    kvanderwyk wrote:
    Devils Advocate wrote:I'll continue the Coroner ramble and throw 'Punishment for Decadence' into the mix :shred:

    Never listened to Coroner before and I threw on Punishment for Decadence the other day, it was solid! Nice avatar too Devils. :headbanger:


    While I find it hard to be nice to anyone or thing from Boston (hatred of the Red Sox and all that jazz), check out NO MORE COLOR & MENNTAL VORTEX, you'll probably enjoy albums more than Punishment and RIP. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    Haha will do sir. :beerwink: And I'm not a big baseball fan so trash talk the Sox all you like! We Bostonians are pretty used to being hated on for sports. :roll:
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    by mooyagi » Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:58 am

    kvanderwyk wrote:
    KevinP wrote:While I find it hard to be nice to anyone or thing from Boston (hatred of the Red Sox and all that jazz), check out NO MORE COLOR & MENNTAL VORTEX, you'll probably enjoy albums more than Punishment and RIP. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    Haha will do sir. :beerwink: And I'm not a big baseball fan so trash talk the Sox all you like! We Bostonians are pretty used to being hated on for sports. :roll:


    Don't worry about Kevin. He's all talk. Inside he's a big softy. He's just gotta put out his Yankee fan douchebaggery every now and then :lol: :cool: I think I'm the only New Englander on the forum that likes baseball
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    by kvanderwyk » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:12 am

    mooyagi wrote:
    kvanderwyk wrote:
    KevinP wrote:While I find it hard to be nice to anyone or thing from Boston (hatred of the Red Sox and all that jazz), check out NO MORE COLOR & MENNTAL VORTEX, you'll probably enjoy albums more than Punishment and RIP. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    Haha will do sir. :beerwink: And I'm not a big baseball fan so trash talk the Sox all you like! We Bostonians are pretty used to being hated on for sports. :roll:


    Don't worry about Kevin. He's all talk. Inside he's a big softy. He's just gotta put out his Yankee fan douchebaggery every now and then :lol: :cool: I think I'm the only New Englander on the forum that likes baseball

    Don't get me wrong, if the Sox are on at a bar or something I'll watch them and root for them... but baseball is at the bottom of my sports list. I won't get in a froth to defend them since I've experienced plenty of douchey Boston fans myself, having lived here all my life. If they're in the playoffs though, I'll watch it. :D
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    by mooyagi » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:17 am

    kvanderwyk wrote:Don't get me wrong, if the Sox are on at a bar or something I'll watch them and root for them... but baseball is at the bottom of my sports list. I won't get in a froth to defend them since I've experienced plenty of douchey Boston fans myself, having lived here all my life. If they're in the playoffs though, I'll watch it. :D


    Oh yeah there are a loooooot of annoying fans out there (though nothing compared to Yankee fans :P ). Plus, it seemed like a Yankees Suck chant went out at every show at the Palladium which was kind of annoying.
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    by Ktulured55 » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:01 am

    Yes, living in Baltimore I've dealt with many Red Sox and Yankees fans at O's games.

    There is no comparison.... Yankees fans are about 10 times as annoying and obnoxious, not to mention rude and conceited. Of course there are nice ones out there (like Mr. P), however overall, they are terrible. Red Sox fans are only slightly annoying and most of them are fine actually. This is not just my opinion but a general consensus of many people in Baltimore.
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    by mooyagi » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:07 am

    Ktulured55 wrote:Yes, living in Baltimore I've dealt with many Red Sox and Yankees fans at O's games.

    There is no comparison.... Yankees fans are about 10 times as annoying and obnoxious, not to mention rude and conceited. Of course there are nice ones out there (like Mr. P), however overall, they are terrible. Red Sox fans are only slightly annoying and most of them are fine actually. This is not just my opinion but a general consensus of many people in Baltimore.


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    by kvanderwyk » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:10 am

    mooyagi wrote:
    kvanderwyk wrote:Don't get me wrong, if the Sox are on at a bar or something I'll watch them and root for them... but baseball is at the bottom of my sports list. I won't get in a froth to defend them since I've experienced plenty of douchey Boston fans myself, having lived here all my life. If they're in the playoffs though, I'll watch it. :D


    Oh yeah there are a loooooot of annoying fans out there (though nothing compared to Yankee fans :P ). Plus, it seemed like a Yankees Suck chant went out at every show at the Palladium which was kind of annoying.

    I haven't heard that chant in a long time around here, so I think people have kind of grown out of it. Although during the Stanley Cup finals I thought I heard the Canucks fans chanting it at the Bruins? I was like, "You're doing it wrong..."
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    Re: Unfamiliar with a band on the 2012 tour?

    by mooyagi » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:13 am

    kvanderwyk wrote:
    mooyagi wrote:
    kvanderwyk wrote:Don't get me wrong, if the Sox are on at a bar or something I'll watch them and root for them... but baseball is at the bottom of my sports list. I won't get in a froth to defend them since I've experienced plenty of douchey Boston fans myself, having lived here all my life. If they're in the playoffs though, I'll watch it. :D


    Oh yeah there are a loooooot of annoying fans out there (though nothing compared to Yankee fans :P ). Plus, it seemed like a Yankees Suck chant went out at every show at the Palladium which was kind of annoying.

    I haven't heard that chant in a long time around here, so I think people have kind of grown out of it. Although during the Stanley Cup finals I thought I heard the Canucks fans chanting it at the Bruins? I was like, "You're doing it wrong..."


    :lol: They must've been chanting something else. No way they can be that dumb can they?
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