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    Now Kamelot cancelled

    by Captain Alex » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:40 am

    Well first with the cruise in which they had more money earlier to organize..
    The worst lineup ever..
    They don't make any announcement or news in 4 months
    Now the destination will be my country or the same island than the last year..
    And the band I was expecting to attend now cancel and UMC haven't announced this cancellation.

    All about this cruise (this year) is a total desorganization and bullshit! and a taunt facing the customers.

    Anybody who wants my ticket and can pay in full before 25 Oct or after that date paying the corresponding fee please let me know.
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by cowboy71 » Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:37 pm

    " Due to personal scheduling conflicts"? What the hell does that even mean?

    "Note* No concerts are Official until they are posted here or Kamelot.com" Sound like they were never 100% committed to doing the cruise in the first place.

    I'm a little bummed as I never did VIP when they came to Brisbane as I thought "no need, I'll see them on 70k". Glad I still went at least.

    Hopefully they get replaced by a weenie band I've never seen before...
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by MLH » Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:08 pm

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    That is only 50% of the bands I cared of the current line up.
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    by Azazel101 » Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:17 pm

    Damn it. Their goes some prime nap time for me
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by TOM CRUISE » Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:16 pm

    Azazel101 wrote:Damn it. Their goes some prime nap time for me

    not if nightwish are replacing kamelot, or edguy :lol:
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by onenight » Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:07 pm

    The following bands have nothing posted on their website or facebook about this cruise, none that I've been able to find anyways. Carcass, Symphony X, Septic Flesh, Soilwork. Are these the next bands to cancel?
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by meshuggah » Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:16 pm

    I think it's time to badger the 70000tons office with phone calls on Monday. This had become an absurd situation. Just a thought: is UMC planning to cancel the event and is waiting to see how many cancel first so they can get their $100/person cancellation fee? I wouldn't put anything past Andy at this point. He is ignoring his lifeblood: the customers and the bands.
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by vikingbitch » Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:48 pm

    onenight wrote:The following bands have nothing posted on their website or facebook about this cruise, none that I've been able to find anyways. Carcass, Symphony X, Septic Flesh, Soilwork. Are these the next bands to cancel?


    Carcass is okay. I had brought up the cruise to Bill Steer (I was so impressed with how I kept my fan girl emotions in check - the words "he'll be trapped on a boat with me SOON" just kept replaying in my brain :lol: ). He had forgotten about it at first though :?
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    by Azazel101 » Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:13 pm

    so much excitement I just booked our flights and hotel room :bangers:
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by ravenous » Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:30 pm

    13 bands "confirmed" about 100 days from the cruise...many bands across the globe telling fans they r going to cancel or don't know if it will happen with no word at all from Umc . Several veteran bands openly saying they got paid next to nothing when they did 70k and would never do it again ? The days of seeing "big" bands of any genre on this cruise r over without a major change .Get ready for 27 announcements of bands that will play for no money for a promoter that nobody wants to deal with a 2nd time. The word is out on 70k in the industry..and its not looking good.
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by Azazel101 » Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:50 pm

    ravenous wrote:13 bands "confirmed" about 100 days from the cruise...many bands across the globe telling fans they r going to cancel or don't know if it will happen with no word at all from Umc . Several veteran bands openly saying they got paid next to nothing when they did 70k and would never do it again ? The days of seeing "big" bands of any genre on this cruise r over without a major change .Get ready for 27 announcements of bands that will play for no money for a promoter that nobody wants to deal with a 2nd time. The word is out on 70k in the industry..and its not looking good.


    The cruise will go on and in my opinion some of the best preformances have come from the lesser known bands and I my self would like to see some lesser known bands from other countries. Bring on another Cripper Award winner!!!!
    If Kamelot want's to back out then we got room for another band.
    Sorry to the Kamelot fans but I did not enjoy what I had saw at either of their two set's and that is just my thoughts

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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by NuuX » Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:36 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:" Due to personal scheduling conflicts"? What the hell does that even mean?


    It means "we got a better deal playing somewhere else", just like Stratovarius that canceled first cruise since they got an offer to support Helloween on European tour.
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by mooyagi » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:10 am

    It stinks that they are out since I passed on seeing them recently due to a chance to see them on the cruise. Hopefully there is a good replacement.
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by rwalters » Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:41 am

    It's never good when any bigger and more established band cancels. How many local florida metal bands are going to be on the cruise this year? 10?
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by Jöhn&Melönius » Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:51 pm

    Heh, Diamond Plate said they got asked 5 days before the cruise to be on board.
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    by jodionline » Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:03 am

    Jöhn&Melönius wrote:Heh, Diamond Plate said they got asked 5 days before the cruise to be on board.


    That's soon :lol:
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by Castroh » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:16 pm

    I find it amusing that the Artists section of the 70000tons website has a link to Kamelot's website which says they wont be onbroad. :shock:
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    by Captain Alex » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:44 pm

    Castroh wrote:I find it amusing that the Artists section of the 70000tons website has a link to Kamelot's website which says they wont be onbroad. :shock:


    I feel like somebody on UMC is laughing about that
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by Metaladdict187 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:54 pm

    This is starting to make me sick
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by Castroh » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:36 am

    Metaladdict187 wrote:This is starting to make me sick

    Don't stress about this at all, this is nothing new for UMC. We'll all completely forget about this crap once we're onbroad.
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    by X-Thor » Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:44 pm

    I once told Andy that I wouldn't care if he announced the entire lineup as we broad the ship. This year's cruise was one of the best weeks of my life and allowed me to meet so many awesome persons, that I decided I'd trust him to do it again.

    So yeah, we'll all have an awesome time and I'm sure many great bands will be added to the lineup.

    I look forward to seeing you all again and meeting those of you that I haven't. :bangers: :bangers: :bangers:
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    by Stained Class » Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:45 pm

    X-Thor wrote:I once told Andy that I wouldn't care if he announced the entire lineup as we broad the ship. This year's cruise was one of the best weeks of my life and allowed me to meet so many awesome persons, that I decided I'd trust him to do it again.

    So yeah, we'll all have an awesome time and I'm sure many great bands will be added to the lineup.

    I look forward to seeing you all again and meeting those of you that I haven't. :bangers: :bangers: :bangers:

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    by Captain Alex » Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:16 pm

    Stained Class wrote:
    X-Thor wrote:I once told Andy that I wouldn't care if he announced the entire lineup as we broad the ship. This year's cruise was one of the best weeks of my life and allowed me to meet so many awesome persons, that I decided I'd trust him to do it again.

    So yeah, we'll all have an awesome time and I'm sure many great bands will be added to the lineup.

    I look forward to seeing you all again and meeting those of you that I haven't. :bangers: :bangers: :bangers:

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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by Metaladdict187 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:10 pm

    Castroh wrote:
    Metaladdict187 wrote:This is starting to make me sick

    Don't stress about this at all, this is nothing new for UMC. We'll all completely forget about this crap once we're onbroad.



    I know. However, my wife and I were really looking foward to Kamelot. I just really sucks
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    by X-Thor » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:32 pm

    Captain Alex wrote:
    Stained Class wrote:
    X-Thor wrote:I once told Andy that I wouldn't care if he announced the entire lineup as we broad the ship. This year's cruise was one of the best weeks of my life and allowed me to meet so many awesome persons, that I decided I'd trust him to do it again.

    So yeah, we'll all have an awesome time and I'm sure many great bands will be added to the lineup.

    I look forward to seeing you all again and meeting those of you that I haven't. :bangers: :bangers: :bangers:

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    by xhead » Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:26 pm

    My opinion: this will be the last UMC cruise, this is already decided! - No good customer satisfaction required.
    In a couple of days the cancelation deadline is over. No further "expensive" bands will follow. Thats it... The "not announcement" is unprofessionel, untrustworthy and not explainable with personal reasons. They put up, that new customers book because of Kamelot´s performance which will not take place! It takes only 5 minutes to post this update in Facebook and on their website. If UMC haven`t booked any further bands up to now, how huge is the chance to get some further bands in that short time frame? And if UMC have already booked some bands, it makes NO sense to wait with announcements. I would be more than happy if I´ll be wrong. But the signs don´t argue for that :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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    by Captain Alex » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:05 pm

    xhead wrote:My opinion: this will be the last UMC cruise, this is already decided! - No good customer satisfaction required.
    In a couple of days the cancelation deadline is over. No further "expensive" bands will follow. Thats it... The "not announcement" is unprofessionel, untrustworthy and not explainable with personal reasons. They put up, that new customers book because of Kamelot´s performance which will not take place! It takes only 5 minutes to post this update in Facebook and on their website. If UMC haven`t booked any further bands up to now, how huge is the chance to get some further bands in that short time frame? And if UMC have already booked some bands, it makes NO sense to wait with announcements. I would be more than happy if I´ll be wrong. But the signs don´t argue for that :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by Metaladdict187 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:29 pm

    Captain Alex wrote:
    xhead wrote:My opinion: this will be the last UMC cruise, this is already decided! - No good customer satisfaction required.
    In a couple of days the cancelation deadline is over. No further "expensive" bands will follow. Thats it... The "not announcement" is unprofessionel, untrustworthy and not explainable with personal reasons. They put up, that new customers book because of Kamelot´s performance which will not take place! It takes only 5 minutes to post this update in Facebook and on their website. If UMC haven`t booked any further bands up to now, how huge is the chance to get some further bands in that short time frame? And if UMC have already booked some bands, it makes NO sense to wait with announcements. I would be more than happy if I´ll be wrong. But the signs don´t argue for that :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


    totally agree bro


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    by cowboy71 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:53 pm

    The way I see it there are only two ways this can go now.

    Either Andy in the next couple of weeks is going to come out with some massive good news regarding huge bands playing etc in a big "fuck you haters fuck you cancellers, this is huge, this is what I've been working on".

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    It's gonna be half assed, bunch of unknown bands filling the remaining spots, and the end of 70k full stop.

    Due to the mass of negativity in the air now and the number of people that have cancelled etc, I don't see any way that 70k 2014 can be a 'normal' 70k experience anymore.
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    by X-Thor » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:00 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:The way I see it there are only two ways this can go now.

    Either Andy in the next couple of weeks is going to come out with some massive good news regarding huge bands playing etc in a big "fuck you haters fuck you cancellers, this is huge, this is what I've been working on".

    OR

    It's gonna be half assed, bunch of unknown bands filling the remaining spots, and the end of 70k full stop.

    Due to the mass of negativity in the air now and the number of people that have cancelled etc, I don't see any way that 70k 2014 can be a 'normal' 70k experience anymore.


    I haz teh sadz. :cry:
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    by cowboy71 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:10 pm

    X-Thor wrote:
    I haz teh sadz. :cry:


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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by X-Thor » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:18 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:
    X-Thor wrote:
    I haz teh sadz. :cry:


    I would be so happy to be proven wrong (especially on the second point)!


    I do feel a lot of negativity, more so on the facebook group. I really hope that doesn't remain until the cruise...
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by cowboy71 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:27 pm

    Absolutely - lucky its a closed group so andy never has to see that :P Otherwise he'd probably slit his wrists :P
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by alex_canada » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:29 pm

    I'm irritated right now, but I don't think it will feel any different when the time comes. If there are good bands, and good people, we'll have a good time. Anyone who would sit on the pool deck all cruise complaining about problems that turned out to be nonexistent wouldn't be fun to have anyway.
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by cowboy71 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:50 pm

    It won't be quite the same for me as sooooo many of my fellow aussies are pulling out! Kim, Link, Stu, Dan, Helena - all out in part due to the lack of news. Steve and Pog - both on the brink of pulling out.

    It will still be great to see all you other guys of course(!!!) but the lack of Australians will be sad :(

    I certainly wouldn't be one to sit around complaining - might kick Piller in the balls once. or twice. though :P
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by Azazel101 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:00 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:It won't be quite the same for me as sooooo many of my fellow aussies are pulling out! Kim, Link, Stu, Dan, Helena - all out in part due to the lack of news. Steve and Pog - both on the brink of pulling out.

    It will still be great to see all you other guys of course(!!!) but the lack of Australians will be sad :(

    I certainly wouldn't be one to sit around complaining - might kick Piller in the balls once. or twice. though :P

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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by Rivfader » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:51 pm

    meshuggah wrote:I think it's time to badger the 70000tons office with phone calls on Monday. This had become an absurd situation. Just a thought: is UMC planning to cancel the event and is waiting to see how many cancel first so they can get their $100/person cancellation fee? I wouldn't put anything past Andy at this point. He is ignoring his lifeblood: the customers and the bands.


    But sadly many of the customers continue to buy into this philosophy.

    I made the mistake of buying into it once, and until tangible changes happen, I will not be buying into it again. Nor will I be recommending UMC products to my friends or anyone else I run across.

    I wonder if the bands are treated like the customers...
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by cowboy71 » Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:46 am

    Rivfader wrote:I wonder if the bands are treated like the customers...

    If you believe kamelot, yes they are :p
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by last_candle » Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:31 am

    oh! just realized that this is indeed true! :shock:
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    Re: Now Kamelot cancelled

    by Captain Alex » Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:09 am

    last_candle wrote:oh! just realized that this is indeed true! :shock:

    Why? .. do you`ve some new info we don`t yet?
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