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    Re: Suitable weenie replacement for Kamelot?

    by Blackfhyre » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:09 am

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    Note: I really don't care, it's just a fun thing to talk about while we wait for word from UMC :mrgreen:

    No! this is the most serious topic ever
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    Re: Suitable weenie replacement for Kamelot?

    by Stained Class » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:12 am

    Blackfhyre wrote:
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    Note: I really don't care, it's just a fun thing to talk about while we wait for word from UMC :mrgreen:

    No! this is the most serious topic ever

    It is. We don't want to disappoint the weenies with a non weenie band just cus the brvtes dubbed it a weenie band.
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    Re: Suitable weenie replacement for Kamelot?

    by Blackfhyre » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:27 am

    Stained Class wrote:
    Blackfhyre wrote:
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    Note: I really don't care, it's just a fun thing to talk about while we wait for word from UMC :mrgreen:

    No! this is the most serious topic ever

    It is. We don't want to disappoint the weenies with a non weenie band just cus the brvtes dubbed it a weenie band.

    Very true! You have to earn that weenie rank!
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    Re: Suitable weenie replacement for Kamelot?

    by Lala » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:46 am

    What about 27 more Weenie Bands? There are only 2 ATM, Xandria and Leaves Eyes.
    Who cares about the Guys who think they are no Weenies? :bangers: :mrgreen:
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    Re: Suitable weenie replacement for Kamelot?

    by Memnoch » Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:14 am

    Stained Class wrote:
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    Stained Class wrote:Edit: Hang on. What does weenie actually mean, is it super high cheesy vocals or is it just anything that's "not heavy" in the book of metal.

    I think you have to ask the trve brvtal crowd about that.

    Yes, they coined the term so they should know.


    Anything that's not brutal is weenie. So, in my books all thrash metal (that includes the so-called melodic death metal as well) is weenie. :lol:

    Oh, wait, does that mean that quite a lot of the tech death bands are weenie bands too? Shit. :lol:
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    Re: Suitable weenie replacement for Kamelot?

    by X-Thor » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:08 am

    Blackfhyre wrote:
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    Blackfhyre wrote:No! this is the most serious topic ever

    It is. We don't want to disappoint the weenies with a non weenie band just cus the brvtes dubbed it a weenie band.

    Very true! You have to earn that weenie rank!


    I think weenie bands need to be:

    - Power metal without even the slightest influence of thrash, heavy or other "more brvtal" genres. This would make Blind Guardian and Sabaton not Weenie. If it has classical music, gothic or operatic influences, it is probably weenie.

    - High vocals.

    - At least one song about dragons, fairies, rainbows, unicorns and/or wizards.
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    Re: Suitable weenie replacement for Kamelot?

    by sageoftruth » Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:57 pm

    Anyone else like the idea of Fabio teaming up with Epica? I'm trying to imagine what Epica would sound like if Fabio took over as Simone's co-vocalist in future songs.
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    Re: Suitable weenie replacement for Kamelot?

    by Stained Class » Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:59 pm

    sageoftruth wrote:Anyone else like the idea of Fabio teaming up with Epica?

    Could be interesting but I think a lot of their hardcore fans wouldn't be crazy about it.
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    Re: Suitable weenie replacement for Kamelot?

    by sageoftruth » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:09 pm

    Stained Class wrote:
    sageoftruth wrote:Anyone else like the idea of Fabio teaming up with Epica?

    Could be interesting but I think a lot of their hardcore fans wouldn't be crazy about it.


    No doubt. Still, Simone and Mark never seemed to flow together as vocalists in my experience. In the songs I've heard, it's like one person sings, then the other goes, "My turn" and the song changes completely. Even the instruments change, and it sounds like the band as a whole can't decide what they want to sound like.
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    Re: Suitable weenie replacement for Kamelot?

    by Blackfhyre » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:29 pm

    sageoftruth wrote:Anyone else like the idea of Fabio teaming up with Epica? I'm trying to imagine what Epica would sound like if Fabio took over as Simone's co-vocalist in future songs.

    That would make Epica much better IMO :headbanger:
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    Re: Suitable weenie replacement for Kamelot?

    by KDibildeaux » Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:15 pm

    sageoftruth wrote:
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    sageoftruth wrote:Anyone else like the idea of Fabio teaming up with Epica?

    Could be interesting but I think a lot of their hardcore fans wouldn't be crazy about it.


    No doubt. Still, Simone and Mark never seemed to flow together as vocalists in my experience. In the songs I've heard, it's like one person sings, then the other goes, "My turn" and the song changes completely. Even the instruments change, and it sounds like the band as a whole can't decide what they want to sound like.

    I personally would not like that. Mark's growls offset Simone's clean vocals. I think it works well. Now MaYan does have another male singer that is kinda power metally (though I don't mind his singing, unlike most power metal)
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    by X-Thor » Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:23 pm

    Blackfhyre wrote:
    sageoftruth wrote:Anyone else like the idea of Fabio teaming up with Epica? I'm trying to imagine what Epica would sound like if Fabio took over as Simone's co-vocalist in future songs.

    That would make Epica much better IMO :headbanger:


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    by Stained Class » Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:29 pm

    Yeah whether or not it would make Epica "better" with is a purely subjective argument, it would make them less "Epica-y". Epica has a specific sound that their fans love and changing that would take away from their identity. I like Mayan and Sons Of Seasons (the band with the clean singer in Mayan) as well.
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    by Captain Alex » Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:30 pm

    X-Thor wrote:
    I think weenie bands need to be:

    - Power metal without even the slightest influence of thrash, heavy or other "more brvtal" genres. This would make Blind Guardian and Sabaton not Weenie. If it has classical music, gothic or operatic influences, it is probably weenie.

    - High vocals.

    - At least one song about dragons, fairies, rainbows, unicorns and/or wizards.


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    by Monmisreal » Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:35 pm

    X-Thor wrote:- At least one song about dragons, fairies, rainbows, unicorns and/or wizards.

    :lol: :lol: Gloryhammer hits 4 out of 5 on that one.
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    by onenight » Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:41 pm

    Monmisreal wrote:
    X-Thor wrote:- At least one song about dragons, fairies, rainbows, unicorns and/or wizards.

    :lol: :lol: Gloryhammer hits 4 out of 5 on that one.


    Black Sabbath hits 2 out of 5 :lol:
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    Re: Suitable weenie replacement for Kamelot?

    by Ecliptica » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:14 pm

    Captain Alex wrote:
    using jurisprudence a definition of weenie is any band Dallas, Hector, Greg and I agree to like


    Yes. The Weenie Council has been assembled.
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    using jurisprudence a definition of weenie is any band Dallas, Hector, Greg and I agree to like


    Yes. The Weenie Council has been assembled.

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    by Memnoch » Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:45 pm

    sageoftruth wrote:Anyone else like the idea of Fabio teaming up with Epica? I'm trying to imagine what Epica would sound like if Fabio took over as Simone's co-vocalist in future songs.


    I would most likely hate them. I like most girlie metal bands, but power metal-y male vocals are a sure turn off for me. Well, most power metal-y elements are a sure turn off for me.
    As for what Epica would sound like with a male power metal vocalist, I think their music would take a turn towards power metal and there wouldn't be much death metal heritage left anymore - which would make their music totally different and I for one couldn't call it Epica anymore.
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    by Blackfhyre » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:43 am

    Memnoch wrote:
    sageoftruth wrote:Anyone else like the idea of Fabio teaming up with Epica? I'm trying to imagine what Epica would sound like if Fabio took over as Simone's co-vocalist in future songs.


    I would most likely hate them. I like most girlie metal bands, but power metal-y male vocals are a sure turn off for me. Well, most power metal-y elements are a sure turn off for me.
    As for what Epica would sound like with a male power metal vocalist, I think their music would take a turn towards power metal and there wouldn't be much death metal heritage left anymore - which would make their music totally different and I for one couldn't call it Epica anymore.

    Very true- it would be completely different. And I would love it :mrgreen:
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    Re: Suitable weenie replacement for Kamelot?

    by sageoftruth » Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:35 am

    Memnoch wrote:
    sageoftruth wrote:Anyone else like the idea of Fabio teaming up with Epica? I'm trying to imagine what Epica would sound like if Fabio took over as Simone's co-vocalist in future songs.


    I would most likely hate them. I like most girlie metal bands, but power metal-y male vocals are a sure turn off for me. Well, most power metal-y elements are a sure turn off for me.
    As for what Epica would sound like with a male power metal vocalist, I think their music would take a turn towards power metal and there wouldn't be much death metal heritage left anymore - which would make their music totally different and I for one couldn't call it Epica anymore.


    On the other hand, suppose Epica split into two splinter groups, one being the one I mentioned and the other becoming more death metally? Still I have to agree with Stained Class, that it would pretty much kill the Epica sound. As much as I'd love to have Simone's voice and Epica's instruments used for that purpose, I'd hate to deprive its current fans of the sound they love.
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    by sageoftruth » Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:36 am

    Just realized I completely derailed this thread. Sorry guys. :oops:
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    by X-Thor » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:17 am

    sageoftruth wrote:Just realized I completely derailed this thread. Sorry guys. :oops:


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    by Captain Alex » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:52 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:
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    using jurisprudence a definition of weenie is any band Dallas, Hector, Greg and I agree to like


    Yes. The Weenie Council has been assembled.

    THIS.

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    Re: Suitable weenie replacement for Kamelot?

    by Captain Alex » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:56 pm

    ¬_¬ is not like I was expecting something better from UMShit..

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    On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 6:39 AM,
    Hi.
    I've read on Kamelot's web page they're not goingo to 70000 tons of metal 2014, Is that true?, and if I'ts true, When will we be officially informed about that, about which band will replace them?
    Kamelot is the 50% of the bands I care about of the 14 bands already announced.
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    by Lala » Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:04 pm

    Captain Alex wrote:More bands for 70000TONS OF METAL 2014 will be announced at a later date.


    a later date - this is new......
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    by X-Thor » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:26 pm

    Lala wrote:
    Captain Alex wrote:More bands for 70000TONS OF METAL 2014 will be announced at a later date.


    a later date - this is new......


    Well, they're changing that at least.
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    by Chris » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:55 pm

    A "later date" sounds much more distant than "soon". That is frightening.
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    Chris wrote:A "later date" sounds much more distant than "soon". That is frightening.



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    Re: Suitable weenie replacement for Kamelot?

    by sageoftruth » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:39 pm

    I forgot to list Dreamtale. That band is so weenie. High-pitched vocals, occasional pop-synth sounds, titles like, "Where the Rainbow Ends" and "Fly Away", and most important of all, I enjoy listening to them which definitely grants them a weenie seal of approval.
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    by cowboy71 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:47 pm

    sageoftruth wrote:I forgot to list Dreamtale. That band is so weenie. High-pitched vocals, occasional pop-synth sounds, titles like, "Where the Rainbow Ends" and "Fly Away", and most important of all, I enjoy listening to them which definitely grants them a weenie seal of approval.

    Sounds like I need to check them out then :)
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    by Memnoch » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:54 pm

    I saw Dreamtale live a couple of months ago. Didn't like them but I'd welcome the singer's other band, Kursk (or KYPCK like they insist on writing it in Cyrillic letters), onbroad.
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    by KDibildeaux » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:46 pm

    Memnoch wrote:I saw Dreamtale live a couple of months ago. Didn't like them but I'd welcome the singer's other band, Kursk (or KYPCK like they insist on writing it in Cyrillic letters), onbroad.

    Whaaat? Same singer? Wow
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    by TOM CRUISE » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:59 pm

    I wish Tad Morose would be booked in the place of Kamelot

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    by Captain Alex » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:51 pm

    TOM CRUISE wrote:I wish Tad Morose would be booked in the place of Kamelot

    New album is fantastic

    http://youtu.be/eW5m2okg8mM


    not bad..
    but never could be a a replacement for Kamelot and their songs that have accompanied some of us for many years.. and the duets they may do with female singers like Therion's girl on 70k 2012
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    Re: Suitable weenie replacement for Kamelot?

    by Memnoch » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:00 pm

    KDibildeaux wrote:
    Memnoch wrote:I saw Dreamtale live a couple of months ago. Didn't like them but I'd welcome the singer's other band, Kursk (or KYPCK like they insist on writing it in Cyrillic letters), onbroad.

    Whaaat? Same singer? Wow


    Yup, that was the only good thing about the gig. Ok, the guys were fun to drink with after the gig.
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    Re: Suitable weenie replacement for Kamelot?

    by sageoftruth » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:21 am

    KDibildeaux wrote:
    Memnoch wrote:I saw Dreamtale live a couple of months ago. Didn't like them but I'd welcome the singer's other band, Kursk (or KYPCK like they insist on writing it in Cyrillic letters), onbroad.

    Whaaat? Same singer? Wow


    Going through my songs, I think I've heard two different lead singers from that band.
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    Re: Suitable weenie replacement for Kamelot?

    by sageoftruth » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:26 am

    Memnoch wrote:
    KDibildeaux wrote:
    Memnoch wrote:I saw Dreamtale live a couple of months ago. Didn't like them but I'd welcome the singer's other band, Kursk (or KYPCK like they insist on writing it in Cyrillic letters), onbroad.

    Whaaat? Same singer? Wow


    Yup, that was the only good thing about the gig. Ok, the guys were fun to drink with after the gig.
    And just for the record, I only went to see Dreamtale because a friend of mine practically dragged me there. :lol:



    Judging from some previous posts, I'm not too surprised. I mean, for awhile I was kind of embarrassed to come out and say that I liked them. No doubt, they're definitely not meant for everyone. If you like Stratovarius, give em a shot.

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