[brunoredsox]

That could happen. But, giving that half the people are already pissed off, the bands he announces have to be killer to prevent some poster tearing hahahahahaha

Andy has let us speculate for several months. He's thrown some clues, some being very obvious (Divided Multitude) and others left for debate (Sonata Arctica, Gamma Ray...). Plus, he's given us time to make some guesses based on bands' schedules (At The Gates...). So, while not 100% confirmed, we can still figure out some of the remaining bands. Besides, I'm sure he'll throw several big names of all genres to make sure this idea more or less satisfies everyone. Which doesn't mean we won't have fillers. Of course there's room for them, too

Just imagine that among the 20 bands you end up finding Divided Multitude, Sonata Arctica, Gamma Ray, At The Gates, Metal Church, Wintersun, Unisonic, Amaranthe, Eluveitie, Kampfar, Moonsorrow and The Sirens, for instance. Who would complain?? Meat for everyone :)

I have a bunch of bands already that I want to see, and I'm going mainly for the experience, so I'll have plenty to do on the Cruise, but that doesn't mean that this whole lack of announcements is ok. As FrencMacho said above, there is a serious problem with the lack of communication. I'm new to this whole Cruise thing, but as a consumer this strikes me as really incosiderate of the organization's part. This is simple: We bought something that we don't know if the other part will deliver, and this is unthinkable in common commerce, let alone on a vacation package. Imagine you buying a ticket to the opera that has III acts, but in the ticket it doesn't say if you'll get the chance to see all the acts or will end up leaving without seeing act III. This is the same thing. We've payed for 60 bands, and I don't know about you guys, but I didn't received any warranties that I'll get 60 bands.

Here's hoping that everything I wrote above is just nagging and doesn't have any truth in it

[bodomdragon]

Come on, many bands must have a week free in january, which doesn't make them on board.

That's why it's called a PREDICTION or a RUMOUR, not a FACT. See the difference? :)

I'm so tired about this stupidity, it's not suspense anymore, it's pure mental illness, and for the next cruise I predict even worse.

Then go somewhere else, relax and stop torturing yourself. Many of us are or have been very pissed and disappointed because of the lack of announcements and communication, and like to bitch from time to time. You definitely take it to the next level in every post you write, dude.

[cowboy71]

Freedom of speech is important - he is entitled to say his piece, even if you think he's going a bit too far.

We've all invested $1,000s in this and we are entitled to bitch as little or as much as we want.

Who is to blame for this? THE SKIPPER. He *knows* it REALLY pisses people off. And it would be very easy to reduce the bitching around here - ANNOUNCE BANDS :)

[bodomdragon]

Freedom of speech is important - he is entitled to say his piece, even if you think he's going a bit too far.

We've all invested $1,000s in this and we are entitled to bitch as little or as much as we want.

Who is to blame for this? THE SKIPPER. He *knows* it REALLY pisses people off. And it would be very easy to reduce the bitching around here - ANNOUNCE BANDS :)

Absolutely agree, word by word. But I also have the right to say what I think without being (excessively) offensive :)

[cowboy71]

And we are going to get ALL THE ANNOUNCEMENTS tomorrow :)

[FrenchMachoBoy]

Yeah I don't take it bad from fellow cruisers, never.
But also I know I seem very evil sometimes don't worry I just bite ladies

[Memnoch]

And we are going to get ALL THE ANNOUNCEMENTS tomorrow :)

Noooooooo! I want to learn the remaining bands from the posters while walking to the boat. I thought we agreed on this already?

[Speedy]

I actually wouldn't mind a few mystery bands that would be revealed once we're onbroad, as long as we're told in advance that it will be so. Doing all 22-24 remaining this way is a bit overkill though.

[Phoenix]

Yeah I don't take it bad from fellow cruisers, never.
But also I know I seem very evil sometimes don't worry I just bite ladies

JUST bite? Well damn, that sounds boring

I dunno, I'd like at least 40 before days to go is in single digits. That's all.

[broegaard]

It would be easier for The organizer to come here and Just write:
It is my way ir The highway.

But he told that this year would be different. Thats the problem.

[FrenchMachoBoy]

At least some bands communicate : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeMcVK32jvM

[meshuggah]

Last year, Viking Bitch threatened to kick Andy in the balls because of the announcement drought. Maybe she'll really do it this year! I'd love to get THAT up on youtube

[acidbasement]

I'm flip-flopping. Sometimes I'm filled with rage at how Andy's holding back the announcements, and I really do think it's hurting ticket sales, thereby reducing the quality/popularity of acts he can afford.

But right now, I don't care, and I'd be fine getting on the boat and seeing a whole bunch of surprise bands in the running order. That would be badass.

It's going to be a blast either way and I'm looking forward to partying with you all, but it's still a piss-poor way to run a business and I probably won't book again.

[Memnoch]

At least some bands communicate : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeMcVK32jvM

I'm predicting this will be our next (non-)announcement.

[MikeB]

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Dude, it's a post. :) No ads for me.

It was a "thumbnail" for the website they linked in the post: http://www.radiobob.de/

[broegaard]

I am "working" with 40 bands(like the previous years).

But in th future? I will wait for the annoucement of at least 1/2 of the bands.

Bucket list bands are getting smaller each year!!!

[manamachine]

Yeah, for some of us, those thousands of dollars are a big deal. I'm 99% sure I won't be going next year, because it's just not something I can afford each year. I live in a city that gets metal shows pretty frequently, so I'm not that concerned. Honestly, I was just looking at BG's tour, and wondered what this was. It sounded awesome, so I hopped on board (soon literally) after seeing that past years included a lot of bands I like.

But so far it's really lacking in the genres of metal that most appeal to me. I mean, seeing the couple of bands I do like, and maybe meeting some people, is still awesome. But it's not delivering what I anticipated. Or maybe it will. Ugh.

[Jaimie38]

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[cocrorico]

Yeah, for some of us, those thousands of dollars are a big deal. I'm 99% sure I won't be going next year, because it's just not something I can afford each year. I live in a city that gets metal shows pretty frequently, so I'm not that concerned. Honestly, I was just looking at BG's tour, and wondered what this was. It sounded awesome, so I hopped on board (soon literally) after seeing that past years included a lot of bands I like.

But so far it's really lacking in the genres of metal that most appeal to me. I mean, seeing the couple of bands I do like, and maybe meeting some people, is still awesome. But it's not delivering what I anticipated. Or maybe it will. Ugh.

i think the same. it 's the 5th and last time i go to this cruise. I wanted to see how it is in a bigger boat, but i m so disapointed that there is more than 20 bands to be announce 2 weeks before departure... it s a shame. next year i ll keep my money in concerts i like

[FrenchMachoBoy]

Yes I agree with you. Bigger boat and 60bands really sound astonishing and still is for one side, but for the other ... So with dollar increase and non communications, i won't go there next year.

[bodomdragon]

Yes I agree with you. Bigger boat and 60bands really sound astonishing and still is for one side, but for the other ... So with dollar increase and non communications, i won't go there next year.

The dollar tendency is yet another reason for which Andy should have been especially careful to keep the customers satisfied these months. Next year for us europeans (and aussies etc) it's gonna be much more expensive to make it to the cruise and UMC's not doing everything they can to conquer our hearts. So yeah, another reason that makes his behavior absolutely incomprehensible.

[FrenchMachoBoy]

I think he will anounce a big name next week or 1day before departure, and people will book like crazies next year thinking he will have another big name.

[Azazel101]

I am willing to book 2016 right now!!!
Cruise 6 has not started yet but I would be willing to book #7 today if I could completely blind

Aren't you an organiser with a fake profile ?

damn it, you figured me out
what ever

[erik13]

I just pictured something, half a dream, half a real possibility.

20 bands (more or less) left to announce on the 21st. Then we go to the port in Ft. Lauderdale. We check in and pass the security check. And while we're walking to the gateway to the ship, we find that the corridor has been filled with posters, like the ones that have been used so far to announce the bands, only this time physical and real, announcing the remaining 20 bands. So Andy reveals 40 bands like every other year and the new 20 are announced in a new, different and surprising way.

Something like this gives me confronted feelings. I find the idea cool and it even gives me chills... except that as I've always said, I want/need time to get familiar with the bands, and I would sure miss something out.

That wouldn't be cool at all. Like you said- I want time to get to know some of the bands I haven't heard before.

[deathmetalpat]

Page 66 of 66! The dickery is beyond what I expected and I am not what you would call an optimist .That being said I am only expecting filler bands with nothing special , prove me wrong and make these people happy damit.

[Razor Ramon]

Yeah, for some of us, those thousands of dollars are a big deal. I'm 99% sure I won't be going next year, because it's just not something I can afford each year. I live in a city that gets metal shows pretty frequently, so I'm not that concerned. Honestly, I was just looking at BG's tour, and wondered what this was. It sounded awesome, so I hopped on board (soon literally) after seeing that past years included a lot of bands I like.

But so far it's really lacking in the genres of metal that most appeal to me. I mean, seeing the couple of bands I do like, and maybe meeting some people, is still awesome. But it's not delivering what I anticipated. Or maybe it will. Ugh.

Yeah, same for me. There has always been some must see bands so I figured I should get on this year. I was going to wait on booking to see more of the line up but anything affordable was selling out right away. Waiting on the line up I would still be waiting. Next time if there is not some must see bands announced in the first batch of bands before tickets go on sale I'll never book this cruise again. I'll save my money for more trips to Europe. Still 22 bands though, the guy could turn me around real quick..



I do think he has something big planned though, a big "fuck you", to all of us.

[cowboy71]

At least some bands communicate : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeMcVK32jvM

"There will be other activities.....apparently"

Love it - their way of saying, even the bands that ARE ANNOUNCED don't even know what's going on

[FrenchMachoBoy]

I do think he has something big planned though, a big "fuck you", to all of us.

For me one "fuck you" has already been said to us, by not answering our shouts, and making another race of non anouncements despite past promises.

Hopefully the sun will be there !

[brunoredsox]

Let's think optimistically here: If they don't announce any more bands, we can, by law, order a partial refund

[Razor Ramon]

So far it's looking like Ft. Lauderdale will be sunny and around 78° F, 25° C on the 21st and 22nd. The date is close enough to be in the weather forecast but we still need 22 bands..

[erik13]

Let's think optimistically here: If they don't announce any more bands, we can, by law, order a partial refund

What's the number of bands that we can get a refund?

[Memnoch]

Let's think optimistically here: If they don't announce any more bands, we can, by law, order a partial refund

From the ticket contract:
"The parties agree that the consideration for the entertainment portion of the Cruise including performance by all musicians on board during the Cruise shall be the sum of USD 200.00."

So even if all bands cancelled, we'd get only $200 back.

[brunoredsox]

That's a bummer...

[Warphine]

To be fair, I don't think Andy promised to announce bands more frequently last year. I think what he basically said was that they promise to not go months without any news at all. Which, if you count all the non-announcement posts, they have done this year.

With that said... it's about TIME FOR ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT!

[taketheday]

Well, ok, the non-announcements are very upsetting if not more, but I am trying to stay optimist. The last year we were in the same situation with 40 bands and the last announcements were done just the day before the departure, if I'm right - can't remember as I was already in Miami when they were announced -, but all the bands were on the ship. Well, of course, it stays 22 bands to be announced in 14 days, but in a way or in another, they will be all there.

That's sure that there's a problem somewhere, but ask yourself a question now, it's the first time with 60 bands and a bigger ship with more fans, how would we manage the change if we were at the Andy's place? We had 4 cruises with 40 bands, it's a huge difference and perhabs Andy has difficulties to manage all changes details I don't think that it's his wish to upset and make us angry. I am not trying to excuse him, but it's my feeling, even if I also have some difficulties to stand this situation, as all of you.

Problem or not, I am already very happy with the 38 bands announced, well some of them as they are among my favourite bands and my biggest times will be to have fun with all of you and with all the other activities before, while and after the cruise All those difficulties wont to make me change of mind for the next years, I will be there, for sure

[acidbasement]

If I see anyone throwing Andy in the pool, I'll probably help. Repeatedly. Just sayin'.

[cowboy71]

To be fair, I don't think Andy promised to announce bands more frequently last year. I think what he basically said was that they promise to not go months without any news at all. Which, if you count all the non-announcement posts, they have done this year.

With that said... it's about TIME FOR ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT!

He actually said in an interview at Summer Breeze in August, that he PROMISED announcements of bands would and I quote "not drag out like last year" apart from one surprise.

So yeah, for me at least that is the most annoying thing.

[erik13]

Let's think optimistically here: If they don't announce any more bands, we can, by law, order a partial refund

From the ticket contract:
"The parties agree that the consideration for the entertainment portion of the Cruise including performance by all musicians on board during the Cruise shall be the sum of USD 200.00."

So even if all bands cancelled, we'd get only $200 back.

So if there's 59 bands we get 200 back? Am I reading that correctly?

[Warphine]

To be fair, I don't think Andy promised to announce bands more frequently last year. I think what he basically said was that they promise to not go months without any news at all. Which, if you count all the non-announcement posts, they have done this year.

With that said... it's about TIME FOR ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT!

He actually said in an interview at Summer Breeze in August, that he PROMISED announcements of bands would and I quote "not drag out like last year" apart from one surprise.

So yeah, for me at least that is the most annoying thing.

Ah, I stand corrected. I was only speaking for what he said on the boat last year, I wasn't aware of that interview.

[cowboy71]

No probs man - here is a link if you are interested!

The key part is right at the end in the last 30 seconds or so:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4xquixyk4Q