Dimma wrote:First 3 songs, max, then get out and earn your captures the old fashioned way.
It's not your right to stand in front of punters for entire sets waiting for the 'money shot'.
And to those whose sole camera is a smart phone or ipad that get photo passes, you're just taking the piss.
Dimma wrote:First 3 songs, max, then get out and earn your captures the old fashioned way.
It's not your right to stand in front of punters for entire sets waiting for the 'money shot'.
And to those whose sole camera is a smart phone or ipad that get photo passes, you're just taking the piss.
Dimma wrote:First 3 songs, max, then get out and earn your captures the old fashioned way.
It's not your right to stand in front of punters for entire sets waiting for the 'money shot'.
And to those whose sole camera is a smart phone or ipad that get photo passes, you're just taking the piss.
X-Thor wrote:Maybe next year we should take photos of the photographers using iPhones/blocking our view? Some kind of accountability?
D.T. Metal wrote:As one of those who usually stands in your way I agree to some point and I actually try to take care of business during one or 1.5 songs at the most.
First 3 songs won't work since there are WAY to many photog on broad. Having two groups like at some bigger festivals looks nice on paper but the photo pits are usually bigger at festivals and can accommodate more - again, not really working on 70K. I believe at the Spectrum most of us were either on our knees or sitting to not stand in peoples way; I didn't see an issue there. But with all this being said ...
I felt that the pit-etiquette went down the drain this year. Some of my "colleagues" were in the photo pit during the ENTIRE set! REALLY? If it takes you 45minutes to take some pictures of a band playing you clearly don't belong there.
Totally agree with soundchaser about the "real cameras" - No DSLR = no photo-pit. I have no issue with another musician or a wife/girlfriend or anybody with a priority (green) wristband being there to take some pics or video but if you only have a smartphone or point 'n shoot camera you don't need to be occupying the pit for the entire set. Got it, you have press credentials and need some pictures for your online content. Request stock photos from UMC since most of us have to send them pics without our watermark for general use anyway.
I know this might sound harsh but standing in front of all the fans is a privilege NOT a right but sadly some apparently thought: "oh great, I can see band X up close for the entire set".
But on the other hand, Andy wants to make the cruise not only fan friendly but media friendly as well and that's why there is no "3 songs-no flash" rule. I guess we all have to take the good with the bad and hopefully one of these days there will be a standard for photog on the cruise.
Looking forward to next year and if I blocked your view during one of the set's - I am sorry.
cowboy71 wrote:holding up cameras right in the face of singers and using the flash(!).....
So not cool.
Speedy wrote:cowboy71 wrote:holding up cameras right in the face of singers and using the flash(!).....
So not cool.
The guy almost shoving his flash down Dianne's throat during Xandria's second set was especially annoying
Lala wrote:There was a guy who videotaped complete Shows out of the Pit....
http://www.youtube.com/user/generichrist/videos
Dimma wrote:First 3 songs, max, then get out and earn your captures the old fashioned way.
It's not your right to stand in front of punters for entire sets waiting for the 'money shot'.
And to those whose sole camera is a smart phone or ipad that get photo passes, you're just taking the piss.
MLH wrote:What next? I'll go buy biggest laptop or flat screen TV with integrated cam in it and drag it to the next gig i'm going, to be one of the cool kids.
Speedy wrote:At PPM Fest last weekend the photo pit was only open for the first three songs for any band. After that all photographers had to get out.
Speedy wrote:At PPM Fest last weekend the photo pit was only open for the first three songs for any band. After that all photographers had to get out.
D.T. Metal wrote:Speedy wrote:At PPM Fest last weekend the photo pit was only open for the first three songs for any band. After that all photographers had to get out.
See my post earlier in the thread. While this is industry standard, it wouldn't work on 70K since the photo pits are way smaller than on festivals.
The last couple of years we had about 100+ media folks on the boat. Let's say half of them are writers only, which leaves about 50 or so folks with cameras. Imagine having us all in the photo pit in the smaller Spectrum type lounge at the same time. Or the theaters for that matter. The pit had to be bigger to accommodate us all which would take space away from the viewing area. Not feasible on a boat.
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