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    Savatage for 2015!

    by mbob » Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:40 am

    Looks like Savatage is having a reunion show at Wacken next year! Maybe they could do a warm-up/vacation after TSO show on the ship! That would be the bees knees!

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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by Speedy » Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:04 am

    I doubt it, as they probably have a deal with Wacken to not play any gigs before their official reunion gig.
    2016 on the other hand might be possible.
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by onenight » Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:56 am

    HELL YES!! SAVATAGE!!!! :headbanger: :headbanger:
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by Jotunheimr » Sat Aug 02, 2014 1:37 pm

    Having Savatage on the ship would definitely be the greatest addition to the lineup IMO, might have to go to Wacken just for this.
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by cowboy71 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:02 pm

    Been a fan of Savatage for over 20 years, closest I've ever got to seeing them live was Zach and Circle II Circle belting out some zack-era Savatage tunes on 70000 Tons.

    I would LOVE them on broad, but its been mentioned on multiple occasions before that its highly doubtful Jon would ever do a cruise.
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by alex_canada » Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:06 pm

    I don't get it. I've seen Circle II Circle playing Savatage, I've seen "Weapons of Mass Destruction", I've seen Jon Oliva. I find it all very ponderous and apparently reliant on nostalgia to find any significant worth
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by mbob » Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:53 am

    cowboy71 wrote:...but its been mentioned on multiple occasions before that its highly doubtful Jon would ever do a cruise.


    Jon also said there would never be a Savatage reunion so you never know but I do believe it would never happen but we can always hope!

    alex_canada wrote:I don't get it. I've seen Circle II Circle playing Savatage, I've seen "Weapons of Mass Destruction", I've seen Jon Oliva. I find it all very ponderous and apparently reliant on nostalgia to find any significant worth


    I have yet to see Circle II Circle nor Jon Olivia and the closest thing to Savatage I have seen in the past 13 years is Johnny and Al in TSO which does Savatage songs once in a while...therefore...seeing them back together for me would be huge!
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by Jotunheimr » Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:30 am

    Any guesses about who's on the line-up(s) or what the setlists will be? I imagine Savatage/TSO will have the same 6 core members that appeared on the latest Savatage records (Jon Oliva, Zakk Stevens, Al Pitrelli, Chris Caffery, Johnny Lee Middleton, Jeff Plate) and maybe a few guest appearances from Paul O'Neil and Bob Kinkel. I hope they dedicate one of their sets to playing Hall Of The Mountain King in its entirety.
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by NuuX » Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:49 am

    Hall of the Mountain King set was done 2 years ago by Jon Oliva's Pain at Bang Your Head to commemorate 25 years of the album. Since Wacken is advertising TSO show followed by Savatage Reunion I'm still a bit sceptical that it'll be 90 minutes of TSO followed by 30 minutes or less of Savatage. Reminds me of the "TSO concert at Brandenburg Gates in Berlin for New Years". It turned out it wasn't a concert but an 8 minute medley. That being said, I stayed up till 3 am in hopes of getting Wacken tickets :P
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by Sgt. B » Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:01 am

    mbob wrote:Looks like Savatage is having a reunion show at Wacken next year! Maybe they could do a warm-up/vacation after TSO show on the ship!


    TSO usually does a 3 month tour in North America from October - early January. Many days they are doing two shows a night. I can't see them finish that up & want to hop on the cruise a few weeks later. I'm guessing they want to take a long break. They would also not have much time to practice whatever Savatage show they are doing. Not a lot of time to rehearse with the travel time & performing twice a day related to TSO. I also think the members we are thinking might be involved are split between the 2 different TSO touring entities in North America.

    NuuX wrote:... Since Wacken is advertising TSO show followed by Savatage Reunion I'm still a bit sceptical that it'll be 90 minutes of TSO followed by 30 minutes or less of Savatage. ...


    That is what I was thinking. They will do a full TSO set and follow up with a short Savatage set. Hopefully we are wrong. I also hope you got your Wacken tickets. 12 hour sellout, I think.

    If Savatage does do a show somewhere in the US, I would try to catch that. If not, I have seen Savatage 6 times (and also the ProgPower Weapons of Mass Destruction set). I have those memories.
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by mbob » Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:38 pm

    Sgt. B wrote:
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    NuuX wrote:... Since Wacken is advertising TSO show followed by Savatage Reunion I'm still a bit sceptical that it'll be 90 minutes of TSO followed by 30 minutes or less of Savatage. ...


    That is what I was thinking. They will do a full TSO set and follow up with a short Savatage set. Hopefully we are wrong. I also hope you got your Wacken tickets. 12 hour sellout, I think.


    I agree that this is what will most likely happen. The "reunion" could also end up being an extended TSO encore.
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by Stained Class » Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:08 pm

    Yeah as mentioned it won't happen before wacken but the fact that it's a European tour tells me that they are for sure playing north America next year.
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    by Sgt. B » Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:50 pm

    Stained Class wrote:Yeah as mentioned it won't happen before wacken but the fact that it's a European tour tells me that they are for sure playing north America next year.

    I'm not sure what you read, but I recall it saying exclusive European performances for TSO & Savatage.
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by headlinerluxi » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:00 am

    TSO and Savatage both will play their 70 minutes set in Wacken next year....an i am happy to assist.
    saw Savatage some 15 times an twice TSO, a very big highlight in 2015.
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by DJ Old Man Stares » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:22 am

    I have never seen any Savatage related bands except for Trans Siberian Orchestra once, so I would happily take any type of Savatage-ish set and would probably see it twice.
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by Stained Class » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:59 am

    Sgt. B wrote:
    Stained Class wrote:Yeah as mentioned it won't happen before wacken but the fact that it's a European tour tells me that they are for sure playing north America next year.

    I'm not sure what you read, but I recall it saying exclusive European performances for TSO & Savatage.

    Sorry I was tired and drunk when I posted that. I meant exclusive European show. If they weren't planning on playing north America it probably would have been a world exclusive. Cus there aren't any other continents.
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by Sgt. B » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:50 am

    Stained Class wrote:
    Sgt. B wrote:
    Stained Class wrote:Yeah as mentioned it won't happen before wacken but the fact that it's a European tour tells me that they are for sure playing north America next year.

    I'm not sure what you read, but I recall it saying exclusive European performances for TSO & Savatage.

    Sorry I was tired and drunk when I posted that. I meant exclusive European show. If they weren't planning on playing north America it probably would have been a world exclusive. Cus there aren't any other continents.



    I am also thinking there will be a North American show sometime after the Wacken show. I'd guess it might be in the Tampa area.
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by Metalwrath » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:51 pm

    Savatage and Running Wild are doing reunions at Wacken.
    Though i'd love to see them on the cruise i suspect that booking either of these reunions is gonna be quite expensive.
    Then as has been said they may have contractual obligations not to play any festivals besides Wacken that year.
    Although technically 70k is a cruise and not a festival as such so there may be a loophole to play the cruise too XD
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by Speedy » Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:21 am

    Wacken is announced as only show world wide for 2015, so no chance to see them before 2016.
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by mbob » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:01 am

    Speedy wrote:Wacken is announced as only show world wide for 2015, so no chance to see them before 2016.



    Where did you read/hear that? This is from the Wacken site:

    "Trans-Siberian Orchestra will be performing live on stage at Wacken 2015, followed immediately by a Savatage reunion gig, that also marks their first live performance in over a decade. Furthermore, these will be the only live appearances of both bands in Europe in 2015!"

    Also, it reads like it may be nothing more then an extended TSO encore with Savatage taking place immediately after TSO.
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by Speedy » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:10 am

    mbob wrote:
    Speedy wrote:Wacken is announced as only show world wide for 2015, so no chance to see them before 2016.



    Where did you read/hear that?

    I was referring to Running Wild, which I failed to mention.
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by mbob » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:15 am

    Speedy wrote:I was referring to Running Wild, which I failed to mention.


    Oh...sorry! LOL
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by last_candle » Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:27 pm

    just book CIIC doing a Savatage set :cool:
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by DJ Old Man Stares » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:06 am

    Fuck, Running Wild and Savatage would round out this roster all too perfectly. That's probably why its not going to happen.
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by Stained Class » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:53 am

    Well, 100% neither of those bands are going to play 2015. 2016 is possible though...
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    Re: Savatage for 2015!

    by Wicker Man » Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:13 am

    Christopher Kinder (JOP drummer) went on the cruise twice and he really wanted to do it with JOP or Jon Oliva storyteller tour but Jon doesn't want anything to do with cruise ship. There is still a chance of it happening but it is slim to none. I really hate to be the dream breaker and i would go on the cruise for Savatage alone
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