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How fast will 2016 sell out?
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by Rjturtle9 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:34 pm

    Managed to upgrade my cabin from Interior L to the cheapest Ocean View that became available for free. I'm a very happy camper. :viking:
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:53 pm

    Interesting that Ocean View I are still available. Certainly a lot more categories left available than previous years considering there is only a month until we sail.

    Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
    Interior N / 73 /
    Interior M / 128 /
    Interior L / 141 /
    Interior K / 3 / 1 / 177
    Promenade PR / 166 /
    Family Interior FI / / / / / / 2 /
    Promenade Family FP / / / / / / 4 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Ocean View I / 66 / / /
    Ocean View H / 42 / / /
    Ocean View G / / / 100 /
    Large Ocean View F / 14 / 2 / /
    Family Ocean View FO / / / / / 10 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Deluxe Balcony E3 / 185 /
    Deluxe Balcony E2 / 52 /
    Deluxe Balcony E1 / / 83 / 8 /
    Superior Balcony D3 / 191 /
    Superior Balcony D2 / 102 /
    Superior Balcony D1 / / / 89 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Junior Suite JS / 56 / / 22 /
    Grand Suite GS / / / 22 /
    Royal Family Suite FS / / / / / / / 4 /
    Owner Suite OS / / / 8 /

    Total Cabins: 1751
    Number Sold Out: 946

    Maximum Number of Cabins Remaining: 805
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by General Zod » Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:35 am

    I know it's not an exact science, but that number does seem low. I wonder if that means the last 20 bands announced will need to contain some significant acts? It would seem that with a half full ship, Andy is going to need to deliver some bands in the next round of ten that will get people off the fence and onto the ship.
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:06 pm

    General Zod wrote:I know it's not an exact science, but that number does seem low. I wonder if that means the last 20 bands announced will need to contain some significant acts? It would seem that with a half full ship, Andy is going to need to deliver some bands in the next round of ten that will get people off the fence and onto the ship.

    Yeah, but its fairly safe to assume that there would be only a handful of cabins left in each of those categories.

    Its impossible to know exactly how many remain, but for example given that Ocean View I *were* sold out and then became available again, it would be very safe to assume there are only actually 1 or 2 cabins available of the 66 of that type.

    Because really - lets face it, if people are not booked NOW its unlikely that even the biggest announcements would get many people to book at this late stage.

    This close to christmas when everyone has maxed out their credit cards, only a month away giving those that work little time to arrange leave, less than 40 days from needing to be there leaving international people little time to organise flights, accommodation etc.
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by scyll » Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:05 pm

    I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure most categories have few rooms left. I met Andy this year at Heavy MTL and I know a few friends who met him too, and this guy knows where he's going, despite what some people may think. You'll get those 20-22 announcements in time, even though we all would like to get em earlier. And I doubt the cruise will be half-empty! ;)
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Sun Jan 03, 2016 4:57 pm

    Ocean View I sold out again, Junior Suite Quad also sold out.

    Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
    Interior N / 73 /
    Interior M / 128 /
    Interior L / 141 /
    Interior K / 3 / 1 / 177
    Promenade PR / 166 /
    Family Interior FI / / / / / / 2 /
    Promenade Family FP / / / / / / 4 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Ocean View I / 66 / / /
    Ocean View H / 42 / / /
    Ocean View G / / / 100 /
    Large Ocean View F / 14 / 2 / /
    Family Ocean View FO / / / / / 10 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Deluxe Balcony E3 / 185 /
    Deluxe Balcony E2 / 52 /
    Deluxe Balcony E1 / / 83 / 8 /
    Superior Balcony D3 / 191 /
    Superior Balcony D2 / 102 /
    Superior Balcony D1 / / / 89 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Junior Suite JS / 56 / / 22 /
    Grand Suite GS / / / 22 /
    Royal Family Suite FS / / / / / / / 4 /
    Owner Suite OS / / / 8 /

    Total Cabins: 1751
    Number Sold Out: 1034

    Maximum Number of Cabins Remaining: 717
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by Speedy » Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:37 am

    Several changes overnight: PR gone, H back, D2 gone, JS quad back, GS gone.
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:49 am

    As Junior Suite Quads and Ocean View H 'unsold out' we can assume there is only one or two of each of them available.

    I wonder if those Grand Suites got offered up to yet-to-be-announced bands?

    Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
    Interior N / 73 /
    Interior M / 128 /
    Interior L / 141 /
    Interior K / 3 / 1 / 177
    Promenade PR / 166 /
    Family Interior FI / / / / / / 2 /
    Promenade Family FP / / / / / / 4 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Ocean View I / 66 / / /
    Ocean View H / 42 / / /
    Ocean View G / / / 100 /
    Large Ocean View F / 14 / 2 / /
    Family Ocean View FO / / / / / 10 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Deluxe Balcony E3 / 185 /
    Deluxe Balcony E2 / 52 /
    Deluxe Balcony E1 / / 83 / 8 /
    Superior Balcony D3 / 191 /
    Superior Balcony D2 / 102 /
    Superior Balcony D1 / / / 89 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Junior Suite JS / 56 / / 22 /
    Grand Suite GS / / / 22 /
    Royal Family Suite FS / / / / / / / 4 /
    Owner Suite OS / / / 8 /

    Total Cabins: 1751
    Number Sold Out: 1260

    Maximum Number of Cabins Remaining: 491
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by cronos23462 » Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:03 pm

    definitely not selling out this year
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Sat Jan 09, 2016 2:39 pm

    cronos23462 wrote:definitely not selling out this year

    Still, its selling better than last cruise.

    With 8 days until 2015's sailing, unsold-out categories represented 528 cabins.

    Admittedly a newsletter sent out by UMC around the same time stated there were only 50 cabins left but we all took that with a grain of salt :lol:

    So yeah, we are at 491 cabins max with still almost a month until sailing this time around.
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:00 pm

    Ocean View H gone again, Promenade PR available again.

    Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
    Interior N / 73 /
    Interior M / 128 /
    Interior L / 141 /
    Interior K / 3 / 1 / 177
    Promenade PR / 166 /
    Family Interior FI / / / / / / 2 /
    Promenade Family FP / / / / / / 4 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Ocean View I / 66 / / /
    Ocean View H / 42 / / /
    Ocean View G / / / 100 /
    Large Ocean View F / 14 / 2 / /
    Family Ocean View FO / / / / / 10 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Deluxe Balcony E3 / 185 /
    Deluxe Balcony E2 / 52 /
    Deluxe Balcony E1 / / 83 / 8 /
    Superior Balcony D3 / 191 /
    Superior Balcony D2 / 102 /
    Superior Balcony D1 / / / 89 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Junior Suite JS / 56 / / 22 /
    Grand Suite GS / / / 22 /
    Royal Family Suite FS / / / / / / / 4 /
    Owner Suite OS / / / 8 /

    Total Cabins: 1751
    Number Sold Out: 1136

    Maximum Number of Cabins Remaining: 615

    Of those, can only be 1 or JS quads (out of 22) and 1 or 2 PR (out of 166) though.
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:04 pm

    Should also be noted that there are still quite a few categories available for single passengers:

    Single Female
    Interior M - TWIN
    Interior K - QUAD
    Del Bal E3 - TWIN
    SUp Bal D3 - TWIN

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    Ocean Vi I - TWIN
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by Pellaz » Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:58 am

    cowboy71 wrote:
    I wonder if those Grand Suites got offered up to yet-to-be-announced bands?


    Or UMC is shifting bands that are already booked to those Grand Suites to make room for other bands to come....maybe more Cripper award nominees.
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by mooyagi » Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:03 pm

    Pellaz wrote:
    cowboy71 wrote:
    I wonder if those Grand Suites got offered up to yet-to-be-announced bands?


    Or UMC is shifting bands that are already booked to those Grand Suites to make room for other bands to come....maybe more Cripper award nominees.


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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by Stained Class » Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:04 pm

    mooyagi wrote:
    Pellaz wrote:
    cowboy71 wrote:
    I wonder if those Grand Suites got offered up to yet-to-be-announced bands?


    Or UMC is shifting bands that are already booked to those Grand Suites to make room for other bands to come....maybe more Cripper award nominees.


    All Cripper Award nominees get stuffed in a Grand Suite and have a little battle royale to see who gets to sleep on the bed. :deathhorns:

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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by Mal2000 » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:03 am

    Would be first time 70k was not sold out
    Reminds me of Barge and no crowds at all - best cruise ever
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by bodomdragon » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:10 am

    I'm sure it will end up selling out. There must be only a few cabins left, and many people agree that this is the best line up ever for this festival.

    I know on the other side the dollar is getting stronger and that might be stopping a lot of non-US potential cruisers, but I still think it will sell out.
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by General Zod » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:43 am

    Given they’re likely still trying to sell tickets, it makes it all the more surprising that nearly one third of the lineup has yet to be announced. Presumably bands are booked because of their drawing power. And while I appreciate that the larger bands have likely been booked, it seems strange to be this close to the event and have such a significant portion of the lineup unknown. Which makes me wonder; are they actually still scrambling to sign bands at this point or are they already booked, but they’re holding off on making the announcements?
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by Pellaz » Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:59 pm

    General Zod wrote:Given they’re likely still trying to sell tickets, it makes it all the more surprising that nearly one third of the lineup has yet to be announced. Presumably bands are booked because of their drawing power. And while I appreciate that the larger bands have likely been booked, it seems strange to be this close to the event and have such a significant portion of the lineup unknown. Which makes me wonder; are they actually still scrambling to sign bands at this point or are they already booked, but they’re holding off on making the announcements?


    I think they're comfortably past their break-even point and they're holding off on announcing bands because Andy.

    Any unsold cabins can and will be used for additional beer storage.* :lol:


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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by bodomdragon » Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:30 pm

    Pellaz wrote:
    Any unsold cabins can and will be used for additional beer storage.* :lol:
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    I don't want to sound redundant but is this REALLY true? I mean, I know we're heavy drinkers, but do they seriously use cabins to store extra beer? :D
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:33 pm

    Don't know if you heard, but on the first 70K we drank more alcohol in the first day than had ever been consumed on any ENTIRE Royal Caribbean cruise before it!

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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by General Zod » Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:49 pm

    Pellaz wrote:I think they're comfortably past their break-even point and they're holding off on announcing bands because Andy.
    I'd also guess they're at the break-even point. It simply strikes me as odd that they're holding off on announcing bands, as announcing sooner can only be beneficial to their bottom line.
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by mooyagi » Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:28 pm

    bodomdragon wrote:
    Pellaz wrote:
    Any unsold cabins can and will be used for additional beer storage.* :lol:
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    * actually true

    I don't want to sound redundant but is this REALLY true? I mean, I know we're heavy drinkers, but do they seriously use cabins to store extra beer? :D


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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by Sgt. B » Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:41 pm

    mooyagi wrote:
    bodomdragon wrote:
    Pellaz wrote:
    Any unsold cabins can and will be used for additional beer storage.* :lol:
    ---
    * actually true

    I don't want to sound redundant but is this REALLY true? I mean, I know we're heavy drinkers, but do they seriously use cabins to store extra beer? :D


    Yes, it is true :lol:


    I can also confirm it is true. Last year the cabin across from mine was just used as a beer storage room. It was never listed as an available cabin on the deck plans via the 70K website. We watched them grab beer from the room a few times. After they went through all that was in it, they used the room to store beer for late night refills. The person running the stock room ended their shift before 10pm or so. They needed to find a way to get more beer when the stock room was unavailable. They used some of these extra cabins as extra storage.
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:53 pm

    Mal2000 wrote:Would be first time 70k was not sold out
    Reminds me of Barge and no crowds at all - best cruise ever

    Couldn't resist chiming in with some figures :D

    So, the remaining available categories represent 615 cabins total.

    Of those 615 maximum remaining, as PR and JS Quads have previously been listed as sold out, it is safe to assume there are only 1 or 2 cabins left in each of those.

    So that brings the number of cabins remaining maximum down to 427 in E1 triples, D3 doubles, D1 quads, and Owners Suites (as none of these have listed as sold out yet, its hard to guess how many are left), plus a couple of PR and JS.

    Of those, even if you assume only 50% of them have sold (and I think its safe to say the figure would be much higher!) That puts it at around 214 cabins, plust the one or two PR/JS.

    Taking the different occupancies of each into consideration (doubles/triples/quads), that would represent about 500 cruisers out of a capacity of 3000 cruisers.

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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by cronos23462 » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:31 pm

    I cant see a band getting a visa this close to sailing,so I bet andy is scrambling to find more bands....why not announce if they are already booked ?
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    by Memnoch » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:59 pm

    cronos23462 wrote:I cant see a band getting a visa this close to sailing,so I bet andy is scrambling to find more bands....why not announce if they are already booked ?


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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by General Zod » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:40 am

    cronos23462 wrote:...why not announce if they are already booked ?
    You would have to assume they're not booked. Announcing the bands is the easy part and to do so would only be a benefit to the cruise in helping to sell the remaining cabins.
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by bodomdragon » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:14 am

    General Zod wrote:
    cronos23462 wrote:...why not announce if they are already booked ?
    You would have to assume they're not booked. Announcing the bands is the easy part and to do so would only be a benefit to the cruise in helping to sell the remaining cabins.

    That's how most people tend to think. Not at UMC, for sure. We've seen several cases where the bands were obviously booked way before they were announced. The most obvious example are Wintersun, which were announced last year just a few hours before the cruise departed and when all of us were already in Miami. Or NOW, when we all know Skalmold will be onbroad but for some reason it's taking ages to be announced.
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    by Memnoch » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:19 am

    Wintersun wasn't booked much before they were announced though.
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    by bodomdragon » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:23 am

    Memnoch wrote:Wintersun wasn't booked much before they were announced though.

    They were announced while we were having dinner the evening before departing. I can tell you for sure that's not when they were booked. They don't exactly live in Florida.
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by Memnoch » Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:39 am

    They were booked only a couple of days before flying to Florida. So it's not like Andy sat on that announcement for ages.
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by broegaard » Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:44 am

    Memnoch wrote:
    cronos23462 wrote:I cant see a band getting a visa this close to sailing,so I bet andy is scrambling to find more bands....why not announce if they are already booked ?


    If the band isn't playing in the U.S., they don't need a visa to play onbroad.



    But for many countries the band members will need visas to enter the US.
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    by Rjturtle9 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:08 pm

    The bands all have to be booked already. It takes time to design and print those shirts, posters, programs... Etc with all the bands on them. Andy just likes to troll.
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    by Mal2000 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:25 pm

    Rjturtle9 wrote:The bands all have to be booked already. It takes time to design and print those shirts, posters, programs... Etc with all the bands on them. Andy just likes to troll.


    We all know from previous cruises that it is not true.
    Some bands were asked to play 7-3 days before sailing date. Especially Florida based bands but also some European bands.
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by Sgt. B » Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:23 pm

    Mal2000 wrote:
    We all know from previous cruises that it is not true.
    Some bands were asked to play 7-3 days before sailing date. Especially Florida based bands but also some European bands.


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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by Rjturtle9 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:44 pm

    Mal2000 wrote:
    Rjturtle9 wrote:The bands all have to be booked already. It takes time to design and print those shirts, posters, programs... Etc with all the bands on them. Andy just likes to troll.


    We all know from previous cruises that it is not true.
    Some bands were asked to play 7-3 days before sailing date. Especially Florida based bands but also some European bands.


    There are merch with all the bands listed on them then right? :?
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by mooyagi » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:37 pm

    Rjturtle9 wrote:
    Mal2000 wrote:
    Rjturtle9 wrote:The bands all have to be booked already. It takes time to design and print those shirts, posters, programs... Etc with all the bands on them. Andy just likes to troll.


    We all know from previous cruises that it is not true.
    Some bands were asked to play 7-3 days before sailing date. Especially Florida based bands but also some European bands.


    There are merch with all the bands listed on them then right? :?


    Yup. The official 70K shirts have all the band logos on the back.
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    Re: How fast will 2016 sell out?

    by Godflesh » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:40 pm

    mooyagi wrote:Yup. The official 70K shirts have all the band logos on the back.


    That ain't wrong. Hmm... How could they print and ship those so fast?
    But the last person booked will be the proof reader on the program booklet :-)
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    by Speedy » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:00 am

    Godflesh wrote:
    mooyagi wrote:Yup. The official 70K shirts have all the band logos on the back.


    That ain't wrong. Hmm... How could they print and ship those so fast?
    But the last person booked will be the proof reader on the program booklet :-)

    Printing booklets and t-shirts is fast. As long as UMC make the deal with the printer well in advance it's no problem, e.g. "we're going to print 3000 t-shirts, and the rear design will be ready two days before delivery". They can print the fronts long before and store the shirts until the back is ready.
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