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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by biertroll » Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:02 pm

    What about the bands that did MDF versus cruise?

    Other US fests vs cruise? Ect..
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by cowboy71 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:44 pm

    biertroll wrote:What about the bands that did MDF versus cruise?

    Other US fests vs cruise? Ect..

    Cannot imagine a band playing MDF would rule them out. At The Gates played MDF last year and were on the cruise this year.

    I reckon the only ones that might pull exclusivity clauses on bands playing them against 70K would be the Shiprocked and Mosters of Rock cruises.

    Or of course 'one off' reformation shows etc.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by dlakavi_gusar » Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:16 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:That makes the 3rd (Alestorm) and 4th (Nightwish) most requested bands for 2017 already ruled out.


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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by Jephi » Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:56 pm

    biertroll wrote:What about the bands that did MDF versus cruise?

    Other US fests vs cruise? Ect..


    MDF does exclusivity clauses with some bands, but not all bands. Even with an exclusivity clause, I don't think there would be any conflict with 70k since MDF is in May and 70k won't happen until February of the following year.

    MDF 2015 had Aura Noir, Blood Bath, Ghoul, Tsjuder, and Vallenfyre - 2016 70k also had these bands

    70k 2016 had Paradise Lost and Samael - These bands will also be at MDF 2016
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by Speedy » Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:14 am

    MDF was US exclusive for Einherjer last year, but they still played 70k as it doesn't count as US.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by General Zod » Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:43 am

    Jephi wrote:
    biertroll wrote:MDF does exclusivity clauses with some bands, but not all bands. Even with an exclusivity clause, I don't think there would be any conflict with 70k since MDF is in May and 70k won't happen until February of the following year.

    ProgPower does something similar (I believe). But as you point out, given that it's a different calendar year, it's likely not applicable. The other aspect that might nullify any existing exclusivity agreement is the fact that 70K takes place in international waters. I would guess the exclusivity agreements the U.S. festivals ask some bands to sign are solely about adding U.S. performances.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by cowboy71 » Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:46 pm

    All bands doing "Cruise To The Edge" next year can be ruled out, as the cruise overlaps 70K's dates.

    Notably it rules out one band that featured on a few cruisers' wishlists:

    HAKEN

    EDIT: Doesn't quite overlap - it departs the day after 70K returns. Still will rule out all bands though for sure.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by Memnoch » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:08 pm

    I'd love to see IO Earth (playing CttE). Ok, they're not really a 70k band anyhow.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by Sidvarg » Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:22 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:Notably it rules out one band that featured on a few cruisers' wishlists:

    HAKEN


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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by bodomdragon » Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:35 am

    So we're having THREE cruises departing from Florida on February'17?
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by metalmaciejmetal » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:18 am

    Another cruise. Is it just me or are these cruises starting to over saturate the market? I know 70k has its own niche market but still it seems that Monster of rock and this Cruise to the edge thing (based on Portnoy being there) I would suspect some fans could be interested in any of the three.
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    by bodomdragon » Mon May 02, 2016 12:49 am

    Soon we'll have more cruises than cruisers :D
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by Empire » Wed May 11, 2016 2:33 am

    Kreator, Sepultura, Soilwork and Aborted.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by Phoenix » Wed May 11, 2016 6:41 am

    Empire wrote:Kreator, Sepultura, Soilwork and Aborted.
    They play in Hamburg on 4.2.17


    :( Well at least the first band I'm knocking off my wishlist this year ISN'T Sabaton.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by Hoppy McGee » Wed May 11, 2016 1:08 pm

    Sucks that Kreator is ruled out already .

    Including Barge to Hell it looks like the only year that one of the Teutonic Four was not on broad was in 2014. So I'm guessing that there is probably a very good chance that Tankard will be on in 2017 hopefully :beerwink:

    Sodom is ruled out due to being on last year and Destruction were on in 2015 so chances are probably slim for them as well.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by Sgt. B » Fri May 13, 2016 1:11 pm

    Agalloch is out. They recently posted that they have broken up. :cry:
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by cowboy71 » Fri May 13, 2016 2:51 pm

    Another band that was high on the combined wishlists! 27th in fact.

    A number of high-ranking bands already ruled out (some admittedly just by hearsay, some though like Agalloch, Powerwolf, Kreator, etc definite).

    This is the ruled out bands ranked by where they sat on combined wishlists:

    3 - Alestorm (told a cruiser not 2017, maybe 2018)
    4 - Nightwish (told a cruiser not 2017, maybe 2018)
    7 - Kreator (touring Europe)
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by mooyagi » Fri May 13, 2016 4:15 pm

    Sgt. B wrote:Agalloch is out. They recently posted that they have broken up. :cry:


    Fuck! :bitch:
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    by DrinkMoxie » Sat May 14, 2016 9:05 am

    mooyagi wrote:
    Sgt. B wrote:Agalloch is out. They recently posted that they have broken up. :cry:


    Fuck! :bitch:

    I dreamed of some day seeing them at night on the pool deck :cry:
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by mooyagi » Mon May 16, 2016 5:24 pm

    DrinkMoxie wrote:
    mooyagi wrote:
    Sgt. B wrote:Agalloch is out. They recently posted that they have broken up. :cry:


    Fuck! :bitch:

    I dreamed of some day seeing them at night on the pool deck :cry:


    That would have been an amazing experience.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by DrinkMoxie » Sun May 22, 2016 5:42 am

    mooyagi wrote:
    DrinkMoxie wrote:
    Sgt. B wrote:Agalloch is out. They recently posted that they have broken up. :cry:

    I dreamed of some day seeing them at night on the pool deck :cry:


    That would have been an amazing experience.

    it definitely would have... alas, they'll never paint fire across that skyline :cry:
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by Speedy » Wed May 25, 2016 4:23 am

    Sin7sinS are calling it quits.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by taketheday » Mon May 30, 2016 1:11 am

    Sabaton and Accept as special guest are touring in Germany while the cruise :cry:

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    by cowboy71 » Mon May 30, 2016 2:37 am

    taketheday wrote:Sabaton and Accept as special guest are touring in Germany while the cruise :cry:

    WELL THAT JUST SUCKS.

    That's some huge names ruled out already.
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    by cowboy71 » Mon May 30, 2016 3:19 am

    Some heavily 'wished for' bands ruled out now. Some purely by hearsay ("so-and-so said not next year"), some confirmed.

    Here they are ranked according to where they are on the combined wishlists:

    2 - Sabaton (touring with Accept)
    3 - Alestorm (told a cruiser not 2017, maybe 2018)
    4 - Nightwish (told a cruiser not 2017, maybe 2018)
    7 - Kreator (touring Europe)
    21 - Powerwolf (gig in France with Epica on 4th February 2017)
    27 - Aggaloch (breaking up)
    72 - Soilwork (touring with Kreator)
    74 - Accept (touring with Sabaton)
    94 - Queensryche (performing on MoR 2017)
    142 - Saxon (perfoming on MoR 2017)
    180 - Stream of Passion (breaking up)
    209 - Haken (performing on CttE 2017)
    227 - Sepultura (touring with Kreator)
    248 - Alice Cooper (bass player's band is performing on MoR 2017)
    523 - Aborted (touring with Kreator)
    - DAD (performing on MoR 2017)
    - Dark Symphonica (calling it quits)
    - Sin7sinS (calling it quits)
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by Phoenix » Mon May 30, 2016 6:47 am

    cowboy71 wrote:
    taketheday wrote:Sabaton and Accept as special guest are touring in Germany while the cruise :cry:

    WELL THAT JUST SUCKS.

    That's some huge names ruled out already.


    OH COME ON!

    Just when I figured I could manage to go again and that they would be booked...
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    by Mr.Kito » Mon May 30, 2016 8:48 am

    Phoenix wrote:
    cowboy71 wrote:
    taketheday wrote:Sabaton and Accept as special guest are touring in Germany while the cruise :cry:

    WELL THAT JUST SUCKS.

    That's some huge names ruled out already.


    OH COME ON!

    Just when I figured I could manage to go again and that they would be booked...


    that really sucks :cry:
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by Mark » Tue May 31, 2016 2:21 am

    Wow. That sucks :roll:
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by General Zod » Tue May 31, 2016 4:39 am

    cowboy71 wrote:74 - Accept (touring with Sabaton)

    Ughh. Accept is the first band I'm disappointed to see has been ruled out. Well, aside from Agalloch. But that's not really about the cruise.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by BringTheShred » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:07 am

    Something I saw in the OP was

    "-all bands from 70k2016"

    Did I miss some big news, or...?
    Or did I misinterpret that?
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by captaingabbeh » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:19 am

    BringTheShred wrote:Something I saw in the OP was

    "-all bands from 70k2016"

    Did I miss some big news, or...?
    Or did I misinterpret that?

    Bands are not allowed to play 70K two years in a row, so any band that was on 70K 2016 cannot be on 70K 2017. That's all that means :)

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    by DrinkMoxie » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:29 am

    cowboy71 wrote:Some heavily 'wished for' bands ruled out now. Some purely by hearsay ("so-and-so said not next year"), some confirmed.

    Here they are ranked according to where they are on the combined wishlists:

    2 - Sabaton (touring with Accept)
    3 - Alestorm (told a cruiser not 2017, maybe 2018)
    4 - Nightwish (told a cruiser not 2017, maybe 2018)
    7 - Kreator (touring Europe)
    21 - Powerwolf (gig in France with Epica on 4th February 2017)
    27 - Aggaloch (breaking up)
    72 - Soilwork (touring with Kreator)
    74 - Accept (touring with Sabaton)
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by BringTheShred » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:02 pm

    Bands are not allowed to play 70K two years in a row, so any band that was on 70K 2016 cannot be on 70K 2017. That's all that means :)


    Was this established during/after the last boat? I thought i remember seeing several repeats throughout the years.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by captaingabbeh » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:07 pm

    BringTheShred wrote: Bands are not allowed to play 70K two years in a row, so any band that was on 70K 2016 cannot be on 70K 2017. That's all that means :)


    Was this established during/after the last boat? I thought i remember seeing several repeats throughout the years.


    It's been the rule since at least 2015, as far as I know.

    Obviously bands are allowed to play the cruise more than once - just not twice in a row.

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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by BringTheShred » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:26 pm

    Well, hell. Lol, thanks for the info, dude.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by DragonLordJones » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:37 pm

    looks like UDO won't be on the boat as he has tour dates listed during cruise
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by Sgt. B » Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:06 am

    DragonLordJones wrote:looks like UDO won't be on the boat as he has tour dates listed during cruise


    Look 7 posts up above yours. :P

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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by DragonLordJones » Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:18 am

    Sgt. B wrote:
    Look 7 posts up above yours. :P



    what actually read the post? :lol: :oops: :cheers:
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2017?

    by Sgt. B » Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:04 pm

    DragonLordJones wrote:
    Sgt. B wrote:
    Look 7 posts up above yours. :P



    what actually read the post? :lol: :oops: :cheers:


    :lol:
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