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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by cowboy71 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:14 pm

    General Zod wrote:Based on last year's line up, I was expecting a bit more power metal than we have to date. Maybe some of that is in the offing.

    Kind of the opposite thinking from me. Given the abundance of power metal on the 2016 I was not expecting there to be too much on 2017.

    Always hopeful of course as its my favourite genre along with the symphonic stuff.
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    Re: Need Another One?

    by macamatic » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:08 pm

    deathmetalpat wrote:
    Rjturtle9 wrote:I can pretty much confirm that Overkill is playing this.

    That would be highly out of the ordinary because they are touring after the cruise with Nile and Amorphis.Seems to be some unstated rule that, an entire USA tour that starts after cruise ,can not be on the ship.Many times 2 out of three or fours bands but can't think of any time an entire tour with 3 or more bands did the cruise.

    Not after, but Epica, Moonspell, and Starkill went on a short east coast tour leading up to this past cruise.
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by sara » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:29 pm

    Sgt. B wrote:Not a Cattle Decapitation fan. Glad others are happy.

    As for the "N" artist that appears to be next, Nuclear Assault, Napalm Death, Novembers Doom, Necrophobic, Noctem, Naglfar or Ne Obliviscarius would be acceptable to me. I am fully expecting to be disappointed though.


    I think November's Doom was on last year? They had a special shirt.

    I could get into some Noisem, Nuclear Assault, Napalm Death or Naglfar.

    If we had Nuclear Assault, we already have Anthrax, so we'd have half of SOD. Stormtroopers of Beer is a thing for MDF though I'm not really expecting it on the ship or know which guys are in it. I've heard Scott Ian saying he's over SOD. Just some thoughts. *shrug*

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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by Razor Ramon » Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:00 pm

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    As far as N goes I'll take Novembre, Ne Obliviscaris, or Naglfar.
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by Pellaz » Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:49 pm

    Warphine wrote:I heard Ne Obliviscaris is recording a new album during the cruise next year so they are out.


    I hope that doesn't rule them out completely....not that I'm expecting them to be announced.

    Plus, 70K had a chance to snag them this year, while they were already in Florida AND left their touring schedule open during the cruise, and blew it.


    I've been vocally upset at 70K about this since last February...but I'm reliably informed now that this wasn't the case. In any event, I'm officially recanting my previous vitriolic comments, and slightly more hopeful for 2017.

    Australia is a LOOONG way away, though.
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by Warphine » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:12 pm

    Pellaz wrote:I've been vocally upset at 70K about this since last February...but I'm reliably informed now that this wasn't the case. In any event, I'm officially recanting my previous vitriolic comments, and slightly more hopeful for 2017.


    What wasn't the case? Their touring schedule definitely put them in Florida before the cruise, and they didn't book any shows for the week of 70K until it was clear they weren't going to be announced. Seemed like an easy addition for 70K. So what about this is wrong?
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by acidbasement » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:17 pm

    "N"... I'm at a loss, but if it's Nine Treasures I'll buy Jess a drink.
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by Hoppy McGee » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:18 pm

    So pumped to be seeing Cattle Decapitation onbroad!!!! :headbanger:

    If the "Stay Tu"N"ed" part is actually a hint then the only thing I can think of would be Nasty Savage.....the frontman was known for smashing television sets over his head during live shows :lol:

    I'm perfectly fine with the lineup as it stands right now.....I'm already sure I'm gonna be making some difficult choices and will need to sacrifice some shows onbroad. If the next one is Ne Obliviscaris, Naglfar or Necrophobic it's gonna be even more difficult!
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by cowboy71 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:22 pm

    Pellaz wrote:Australia is a LOOONG way away, though.

    Yup - costs a shit-ton to fly from Australia to Miami. And Psycroptic are already flying over from Australia.

    I cannot see all six members of NeO being flown over just for the cruise. You are talking $10,000 in flights for the band members alone.
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by Pellaz » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:31 pm

    Warphine wrote:
    Pellaz wrote:I've been vocally upset at 70K about this since last February...but I'm reliably informed now that this wasn't the case. In any event, I'm officially recanting my previous vitriolic comments, and slightly more hopeful for 2017.


    What wasn't the case? Their touring schedule definitely put them in Florida before the cruise, and they didn't book any shows for the week of 70K until it was clear they weren't going to be announced. Seemed like an easy addition for 70K. So what about this is wrong?


    NeO was offered a slot on the cruise, but at the bitter end they were financially unable to do it due to tour-related expenses.
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by deathmetalpat » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:35 pm

    My guess is going to be Neurosis ,Best of the West might refer to them also.
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by Sgt. B » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:41 pm

    sara wrote:
    I think November's Doom was on last year? They had a special shirt.


    You are correct. I was thinking they were on the 2015 cruise for some reason.
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by meshuggah » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:52 pm

    My guess is Napalm Death, since they were just touring with Cattle Decapitation.
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by Warphine » Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:01 pm

    Pellaz wrote:NeO was offered a slot on the cruise, but at the bitter end they were financially unable to do it due to tour-related expenses.


    Thank you for clarifying. Glad to know they were offered the spot at least!
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by Memnoch » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:33 pm

    I want the N band to be Nightmare. Because you all know how much I love repeats. :lol:
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by Godflesh » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:04 am

    I'm surprised nobody commented on the fact that the 't' of "tuned" was capitalized, which usually indicates a letter from the band's initials.
    So 'T' and 'N', maybe?
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by bodomdragon » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:25 am

    Pellaz wrote:NeO was offered a slot on the cruise, but at the bitter end they were financially unable to do it due to tour-related expenses.

    That's not what I heard, but I don't feel like beating a dead horse anymore :)
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by CFH » Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:05 am

    Godflesh wrote:I'm surprised nobody commented on the fact that the 't' of "tuned" was capitalized, which usually indicates a letter from the band's initials.
    So 'T' and 'N', maybe?


    This also crossed my mind. Maybe "The NXXXXX"?
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    by bodomdragon » Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:11 am

    I have the feeling that it's time for one of those bands most of us have never heard about.
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by AceHugger » Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:40 am

    cowboy71 wrote:
    How about something a bit lighter now Skipper?



    ..ickleback?

    Couldn't bring myself to type the whole name. Lol.

    Actually all joking aside have played a great drinking karaoke game associated to... them. At a rockeoke event where I used to live a bunch of us all put a fiver into a hat then drew names. The "winner" got the cash IF and only IF they did a NB song at karaoke AND legitimately put some effort in. The results were... varied. Hahaha. Maybe if I'm drunk enough on the boat I'll suggest it. Not sure what the conversion rate would be though maybe like $10 each instead of £5.

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    And yes I know that nailbomb isn't possible due to max being on tour etc... I was just mind dumping.

    What's the possibility of nin though...? Less than none?
    I hear old rezzy does like a good tanning session lol.

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    Pellaz wrote:Australia is a LOOONG way away, though.

    Yup - costs a shit-ton to fly from Australia to Miami. And Psycroptic are already flying over from Australia.


    Maybe they can car-share to reduce costs?
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    Re: Need Another One?

    by AceHugger » Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:49 am

    deathmetalpat wrote:
    Rjturtle9 wrote:I can pretty much confirm that Overkill is playing this.

    That would be highly out of the ordinary because they are touring after the cruise with Nile and Amorphis.Seems to be some unstated rule that, an entire USA tour that starts after cruise ,can not be on the ship.Many times 2 out of three or fours bands but can't think of any time an entire tour with 3 or more bands did the cruise.


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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by deathmetalpat » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:41 am

    Godflesh wrote:I'm surprised nobody commented on the fact that the 't' of "tuned" was capitalized, which usually indicates a letter from the band's initials.
    So 'T' and 'N', maybe?

    Metal has very few "The" bands and usually when one plays the cruise "The" is dropped off for the alphabetical order.I found a band that could totally fit that clue ,theNAME https://youtu.be/YOZBQ2KlBFU .They don't appear to be active or broken up.
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by CFH » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:52 am

    deathmetalpat wrote:
    Godflesh wrote:I'm surprised nobody commented on the fact that the 't' of "tuned" was capitalized, which usually indicates a letter from the band's initials.
    So 'T' and 'N', maybe?

    usually when one plays the cruise "The" is dropped off for the alphabetical order.


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    by JARI » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:59 am

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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by metalmaciejmetal » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:06 am

    General Zod wrote:
    Heck, Loomis is already on the boat.


    He is?

    Regarding Cattle Decapitation, i'll put that in the same category as Devil Driver, zero sets for me.

    I might as well make another guess based on nothing other than personal taste, N will be Nightrage
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by Phoenix » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:11 am

    metalmaciejmetal wrote:
    General Zod wrote:
    Heck, Loomis is already on the boat.


    He is?

    Yeah, he's playing with Arch Enemy now.

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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by General Zod » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:26 am

    metalmaciejmetal wrote:Regarding Cattle Decapitation, i'll put that in the same category as Devil Driver, zero sets for me.

    I think that may be the first time those two bands have ever been put in the same category.

    I'm curious how many people are passing on Cattle Decapitation based on the name or their earlier material, when they were a grind band. The new material is super polished, well executed and has some sizable hooks.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8t8g8lU4ms

    Give it to the chorus at the 2:23 mark.
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by metalmaciejmetal » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:36 am

    Phoenix wrote:Yeah, he's playing with Arch Enemy now.


    Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Shows how little I care for that band.

    General Zod wrote:I'm curious how many people are passing on Cattle Decapitation based on the name or their earlier material,


    That's pretty much the reason. I didn't care for them in the early 2000s and never took a second look. That and I don't like grindcore. I'll give the link a listen since you're recommending it.
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    Re: The Best Of The West

    by Warphine » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:38 am

    General Zod wrote:I'm curious how many people are passing on Cattle Decapitation based on the name or their earlier material, when they were a grind band. The new material is super polished, well executed and has some sizable hooks.


    Exactly. I used to listen to them in the past and enjoyed them but I like them a lot more with their past couple of albums.

    I really dig this track too... and that chorus...

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    Return Of The NIGHTMARE

    by Andy » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:08 am

    The winners of the 2013 "Cripper Award", NIGHTMARE will haunt you twice onbroad 70000TONS OF METAL 2017; once on the way to Labadee and once on the way back!

    There's something out in the foggy distance... It looks like a "G"!

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    Re: Return Of The NIGHTMARE

    by metalmaciejmetal » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:18 am

    Nightmare as in these guys? http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Nightmare/2727

    I was going through about a dozen Nightmare bands on metal archives until I found the French one. Old school, I will have to look into this.
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    by bodomdragon » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:19 am

    Meh.

    No idea where the new clue is pointing. I checked all bands that have previously played the cruise and start with G, and it doesn't seem to match any of them (there are only a handful of them anyway).
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    Re: Return Of The NIGHTMARE

    by acidbasement » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:26 am

    Brace yourselves. A happy wookie is coming.

    As for the "G", weren't Grand Magus predicted?
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    Re: Return Of The NIGHTMARE

    by Phoenix » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:28 am

    Something tells me it's Cripper time.

    I would have guessed Gorod, but even they appear to be too well known to fit this clue.

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    Re: Return Of The NIGHTMARE

    by elj4176 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:32 am

    Graves at sea?
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    Re: Return Of The NIGHTMARE

    by bodomdragon » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:34 am

    A friend of mine just suggested Ghost Ship Octavius. Kinda fits, doesn't it?
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    by Downvod » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:37 am

    bodomdragon wrote:A friend of mine just suggested Ghost Ship Octavius. Kinda fits, doesn't it?


    I immediately thought of them as well. I really really hope so. If anyone has never heard of them, they put out one of the best debut albums I've ever heard. Awesome stuff.
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    Re: Return Of The NIGHTMARE

    by Warphine » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:41 am

    Ghost Ship Octavius is a great band and they have the drummer from Nevermore! Let's do this Nevermore reunion UMC!!!!
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    Re: Return Of The NIGHTMARE

    by CFH » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:43 am

    Well, could the next one be that Grand Magnus band, who said that they are going to be on the cruise? Either way, have no interest in Nightmare or Grand Magnus, so might just wait for the next clue.
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    Re: Return Of The NIGHTMARE

    by Warphine » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:49 am

    I'd be happy with either Grand Magus or GSO as I like both bands. The clue almost certainly points to GSO though.
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