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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by slayergeek » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:58 pm

    Razor Ramon wrote:TROLLFEST
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    Ahh come on man. I am pretty much into Thrash and Death and Trollfest is not my cup of tea much musically. That being said, their show and atmosphere is a LOT of fun.

    Will I buy their album, not a chance. Will I see their show, absolutely!!
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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by Gratch » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:58 pm

    Ensiferum would be great, as would Enshine.
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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by Phoenix » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:58 pm

    slayergeek wrote:Will I buy their album, not a chance. Will I see their show, absolutely!!

    ^ TrollfesT in a nutshell.
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    Re: Blunt Force TRAUMA

    by Downvod » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:59 pm

    General Zod wrote:
    Phoenix wrote:While I agree with you that the teasing has been murder and he does appear to be grabbing old relative nobodies at the 11th hour here, I know of at least one dragon that was very happy to see Axxis announced.

    Understood. I'm sure there's not a band you can find that wouldn't make at least a few people happy.

    Phoenix wrote:But I'm pleased enough with the lineup.

    I'm not. The two bands I'm looking forward to most are probably the two bands that were announced first; Anthrax and Amorphis. So for me, the lineup announcements have mostly been a protracted downhill ride. My tastes aside, this year's lineup just feels a bit underpowered compared to last. As always, just my two cents.


    Yeah all opinion. I loved last year's lineup and I had an amazing time, but I am WAY more excited about this one. That said, you can't please everyone, but I do think the 70K team does a very admirable job trying to do so. I wouldn't want that task.
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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by alex_canada » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:16 pm

    Can't stand trollfest, yet for some reason I might see them again.

    Edenbridge isn't my top pick or anything, but I do really like the song "wild chase". I'd stick my head in for a bit.
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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by TPH » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:18 pm

    There's around zero fucking chance my wish comes true, but I'll piss myself if the next band is Emperor.
    And same as everyone said, I don't care about TrollfesT's music at all, but their live shows are pure fun.
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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by deathmetalpat » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:40 pm

    Edenbridge would be cool,Love The Grand Design album
    TrollfesT has been explained here,no cds by them I have but fun show live.
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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by AceHugger » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:48 pm

    captaingabbeh wrote:
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    Enter Shikari?

    UK represent.


    I don't know how many other cruisers would be down for Enter Shikari, but I would catch the shit out of a set of theirs.


    Yeah, not the typical fare and probably not what most cruisers would dig but I'd enjoy it. Saw them at Glastonbury a couple of years ago and they were great.
    It's highly highly unlikely though.
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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by Razor Ramon » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:51 pm

    slayergeek wrote:
    Razor Ramon wrote:TROLLFEST
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    11 more thumbs down coming up!


    Ahh come on man. I am pretty much into Thrash and Death and Trollfest is not my cup of tea much musically. That being said, their show and atmosphere is a LOT of fun.

    Will I buy their album, not a chance. Will I see their show, absolutely!!


    I'd take a peek, certainly wouldn't go out of my way to see them.
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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by Sgt. B » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:18 pm

    Borrowing from Razor for this one.

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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by cowboy71 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:29 pm

    This last lot of 10 bands has seen far fewer 'smaller' (in terms of last.fm listeners) bands compared to for the 2016 cruise.

    By number of last.fm listeners, in announcements 41-50 for 2016 we had:

    2016
    one 'large' band (Eluveitie with 340,000 listeners)
    three with 20k-50k listeners (Raven, Susperia, and Skalmold)
    six with under 3,000 listeners: Twilight Force (3,000), Painful (100), Abinchova (3,000), Koyi K Utho (3,000), Dia De Los Muertos (2,000), Distillator (600)

    Compared to 2017

    2017 (if Edenbridge is band 50)
    Four large-ish bands with around 100,000 listeners or more - Edenbridge, Nightmare, Mors Principium Est, Axxis
    Three with 35k-100K - Cattle Decapitation (80,000), Trollfest (55,000), Trauma (35,000)
    Two with 15-20K - Avatarium (16,000), Misery Loves Co (15,000)
    And only one with under 3,000 - Ghost Ship Octavius (2,000)

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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by Phoenix » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:17 pm

    Thanks for those numbers Statsman, I was noticing that myself.

    Either we have fewer Crippers this year, or these last ten are all little known acts.

    If band 60 is Amon Amarth I may actually get upset at this point, you fucking troll Skipper.
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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by Downvod » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:14 pm

    Phoenix wrote:Thanks for those numbers Statsman, I was noticing that myself.

    Either we have fewer Crippers this year, or these last ten are all little known acts.

    If band 60 is Amon Amarth I may actually get upset at this point, you fucking troll Skipper.


    I think, if they aren't announced last, it might be time to accept that Amon Amarth isn't going to be on the cruise again. This would have been the year, if any. They are the most highly requested band, they are touring a huge new album, and their schedule is wide open. If they aren't on this year, it is likely they have simply outgrown this event.
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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by Memnoch » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:37 pm

    Seen Trollfest before, and I'm trying to stay as far away from their shows as possible.
    The next one looks like it'll be Edenbridge. Not my favourite girlie band, but an ok add.
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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by Kingslayer » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:17 am

    Downvod wrote:
    Phoenix wrote:Thanks for those numbers Statsman, I was noticing that myself.

    Either we have fewer Crippers this year, or these last ten are all little known acts.

    If band 60 is Amon Amarth I may actually get upset at this point, you fucking troll Skipper.


    I think, if they aren't announced last, it might be time to accept that Amon Amarth isn't going to be on the cruise again. This would have been the year, if any. They are the most highly requested band, they are touring a huge new album, and their schedule is wide open. If they aren't on this year, it is likely they have simply outgrown this event.

    I dunno. If they can get Anthrax, surely they can get Amon Amarth
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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by drrock » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:08 am

    Trollfest to me means more time for breakfast, lunch or dinner and no collision with other shows. Defintely not my Cup of tea. Would not mind if Edenbridge is next. Never saw them so far but they sound familiar. Would catch at least one show.
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    Re: Blunt Force TRAUMA

    by bodomdragon » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:41 am

    General Zod wrote:
    Mark wrote:Not going to defend Trauma (had to click through quite some techno shit to even find them on Spotify) but Axxis is a rather huge and successful band in Germany. Now I understand a lot of you guys don't like Power Metal but anybody who's into it will definitely enjoy them :beerwink:

    Mark... I'm someone who loves Power Metal, but had never even heard of Axxis. Upon learning of their inclusion on the 2017 roster I immediately checked them out. I think they're terrible. Now granted, taste is subjective, so my opinion is merely that. However, I don't think Axxis was on a single wishlist, not even yours. Worse, there seems to be this trend of grabbing old bands, that just aren't relevant anymore. Axxis bares the additional weight of being an "A" band. Every time Andy teases an "A" band everyone gets excited, hoping it's the Amon Amarth announcement everyone wants and he's been teasing. So when you're hoping for one of the most prominent bands in metal and instead are handed some 30 year old power metal band no one has ever heard of (save a few thousand Germans :party: ), disappointment is certain to ensue. Cheers.

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    Re: Blunt Force TRAUMA

    by bodomdragon » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:46 am

    Phoenix wrote:
    General Zod wrote:However, I don't think Axxis was on a single wishlist, not even yours.


    While I agree with you that the teasing has been murder and he does appear to be grabbing old relative nobodies at the 11th hour here, I know of at least one dragon that was very happy to see Axxis announced.

    But I'm pleased enough with the lineup. All I want now is a party folk band.

    I wonder who that dragon could be?? :D

    I should've read the entire conversation before replying :D

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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by Downvod » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:45 am

    Kingslayer wrote:
    Downvod wrote:
    Phoenix wrote:Thanks for those numbers Statsman, I was noticing that myself.

    Either we have fewer Crippers this year, or these last ten are all little known acts.

    If band 60 is Amon Amarth I may actually get upset at this point, you fucking troll Skipper.


    I think, if they aren't announced last, it might be time to accept that Amon Amarth isn't going to be on the cruise again. This would have been the year, if any. They are the most highly requested band, they are touring a huge new album, and their schedule is wide open. If they aren't on this year, it is likely they have simply outgrown this event.

    I dunno. If they can get Anthrax, surely they can get Amon Amarth


    Anthrax is a big, legendary name in metal.... They have had a great career, but in terms of popularity, they are nowhere near as relevant as they were in the 80's or early 90's. In 2017, Amon Amarth is a WAY bigger band. The last few times I saw Anthrax, they were playing in 1,500 capacity clubs that were maybe 3/4 full... or they were opening for a bigger band or co-headlining. Last time I saw Amon Amarth, it was at a sold out theater with a rowdy and insane crowd. In Europe, Amon Amarth is headlining packed arenas. They are the biggest thing in 'extreme' or 'underground' metal right now, by far.
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    by cowboy71 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:39 am

    Agreed. Some figures from this article from about 6 months ago provide some backup to what you are saying:

    http://www.metalinjection.net/its-just- ... attendance

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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by AceHugger » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:09 am

    Downvod wrote:
    I think, if they aren't announced last, it might be time to accept that Amon Amarth isn't going to be on the cruise again.


    You know sometimes when you're reading something and your mind finishes the sentence before you've actually read it all??

    I really thought you were going to say:
    Downvod wrote:"I think, if they aren't announced last, it might be time to accept that Amon Amarth isn't going to be on this cruise"


    I thought that response would have been incredible. especially if it was understated. and not said in a sarcastic fashion.

    Reading it back I'm not entirely sure why, but it inspired me to write this, so there we go....
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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by Phoenix » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:53 am

    For the record, I'm quite certain that Amon Amarth are not going to be announced this cruise, nor ever again. That's why I think Andy announcing them as the 60th band would be a big troll move.

    I agree, they're getting very big. Probably too big for our boat. And that's fine. I'd rather see bands that I don't get to see at home anyway.
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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by metalmaciejmetal » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:57 am

    mbob wrote:Please make it Edguy, Ensiferum or Exodus!


    Edguy would completely change my priorities. Its been nearly 10 years since I've seen them.
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    by General Zod » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:17 am

    Looking at Edguy's site, it doesn't seem likely. The last three updates in their News sections are Merry Xmass 2015, Happy Easter 2016, Marry Xmass 2016. That doesn't sound like a and who's currently doing much. Given they haven't played live in more than a year and bands of their size aren't typically announced at this late date, I think this is highly unlikely.
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    by drrock » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:03 am

    At least EDGUY are under contract to Nuclear Blast who traditionally send lots of bands to the cruise. Check out the NB homepage and you might find the next band starting with an E to perform on broad...
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    by metalmaciejmetal » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:39 am

    General Zod wrote:Looking at Edguy's site, it doesn't seem likely. The last three updates in their News sections are Merry Xmass 2015, Happy Easter 2016, Marry Xmass 2016. That doesn't sound like a and who's currently doing much. Given they haven't played live in more than a year and bands of their size aren't typically announced at this late date, I think this is highly unlikely.

    Its true, Edguy hasn't been doing much in a while now. Tobi has been busy on Avantasia, neglecting Edguy. If Edguy was to do a one off for 70000 tons, it would have been announced a long time ago. One can still hope, right? It does make me wonder with this long hiatus what do the rest of the Edguys do when Tobi and Felix are working on the metal opera?

    Well, my other blind guess is EVERGREY. They at least have a current album to support
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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by Daenerys » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:59 am

    metalmaciejmetal wrote:
    Well, my other blind guess is EVERGREY. They at least have a current album to support


    My thoughts as well. Hoping for Evergrey or Ensiferum. Emperor would be great but I don't see it being possible.

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    by metalmaciejmetal » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:08 pm

    Daenerys wrote:
    My thoughts as well. Hoping for Evergrey or Ensiferum. Emperor would be great but I don't see it being possible.



    Emperor would be a huge fucking deal. If they booked Emperor, it would have been announced in the first batch of 10.

    Realistically I suspect E will be something rather obscure, maybe something from south America no one knows about.
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    by deathmetalpat » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:13 pm

    Azazel101 wrote:It will be all good in 25 days

    Hope so ,as Americans I can say we over do things.Problaby extra security at baggage area.Just another thing that slows down travel,but as with every cruise the first band playing blasts everything away.TrollfestT would be a good first small band playing.
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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by Phoenix » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:17 pm

    deathmetalpat wrote:
    Azazel101 wrote:It will be all good in 25 days

    Hope so ,as Americans I can say we over do things.Problaby extra security at baggage area.Just another thing that slows down travel,but as with every cruise the first band playing blasts everything away.TrollfestT would be a good first small band playing.


    Oh I'd love that. Would be the perfect start to the cruise.
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    by Razor Ramon » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:33 pm

    I agree on Trollfest kicking things off, along with any other bands I don't like in those opening slots, I like a little extra mingling time on that first day.
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    by cowboy71 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:49 pm

    Razor Ramon wrote:I agree on Trollfest kicking things off, along with any other bands I don't like in those opening slots, I like a little extra mingling time on that first day.

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    by sara » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:46 pm

    Razor Ramon wrote:I agree on Trollfest kicking things off, along with any other bands I don't like in those opening slots, I like a little extra mingling time on that first day.


    Last year I really tried to see Carach Angren play one of the very first sets, and they were in the tiny club! Way too stressful, it was so overcrowded. I couldn't see them at all. The year before, I rushed to see a band who had tech problems and got delayed.

    It is soooo much better to avoid that first slot, I think! I'm gonna watch the shore disappear this time. Maybe yell at another ship. With booze in hand, of course. :beerbang:
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    by deathmetalpat » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:53 pm

    In 2014 Swashbuckle was cool starting,it was a bit crowded but not too bad.In 2012 I think Overkill was going to be the first band I wanted to see ,disaster and in 2013 Sabaton was a great first show for me.
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    by Razor Ramon » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:24 pm

    It's nice to be able to mingle and watch debarkation. I saw about five seconds of peoples heads at Carach Angren and walked out.
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    by ExtraneouS » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:18 pm

    Last year my muster station was in the Pyramid Lounge, and once the drill was over I climbed over the couches and got on the bar for Carach Angren. Hopefully this year I luck out again and get assigned to a muster station inside and a good first band, otherwise I plan on going to the ice rink, or join you guys in watching as we sail away.
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  • deathmetalpat
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    Re: We're Going To Have A Helluva Time

    by deathmetalpat » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:26 pm

    First year ,2012 , did the sail away watching the sunset thing.Went to The Viking Lounge before hardly anyone was up there.Was a cool spot because it was easy to get drink service,waiters where walking around and filled your order right away.2013 and 14 was more interesting to see bands.
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    2020 Bands ,what bands boat is all that matters
  • Andy
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    2017 POOL GIRL OF THE MONTH Calendar

    by Andy » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:52 pm

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