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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by Azazel101 » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:21 am

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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by Iconix » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:32 am

    Two years ago, on our first cruise, Insomnium was our "pull the trigger" band, the one where we saw the announcement and decided "fuck it, we're going, we're gonna make this happen." This year, we were gonna be there no matter what, and getting them back for another round just makes it all the sweeter.

    Fingers crossed for Gojira next, given their unfortunate last minute cancellation last year I would assume they would be invited back pretty early
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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by Sherlock » Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:10 am

    Gojira ? Gloryhammer would be great too ...
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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by Azazel101 » Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:14 am

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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by TPH » Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:20 am

    As I've already seen Gojira last month, I'm all for Gwar as well!
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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by Memnoch » Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:23 am

    The next one seems to be Goatwhore. Weird they haven't announced it yet. Then again this is UMC we're talking about.
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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by Hoppy McGee » Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:33 am

    "G" could be for Gojira! I was really bummed out when they had to drop out at the last minute last year. My fingers are crossed that they'll make it up this year.

    Could also be Grand Magus as they were heavily rumored to be on last year....maybe they had actually signed up to be on this year instead?

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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by ExtraneouS » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:47 am

    I wonder if Andy realizes we can see the announcement square already? :lol:
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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by metalmaciejmetal » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:58 am

    Azazel101 wrote:GWAR!!!!


    I second that one. So far there has been nothing remotely interesting to me. Gwar would completely change the game for me
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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by mooyagi » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:05 am

    Hopefully insomnium has a better time slot this time. Damn, that's another band I'm excited about. Really getting close to booking now.
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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by Hoppy McGee » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:30 am

    ExtraneouS wrote:I wonder if Andy realizes we can see the announcement square already? :lol:


    Am I missing something? I've seen a few people saying the next band is Goatwhore like it's common knowledge. I don't see anything on the artists page?
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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by Phoenix » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:44 am

    Aside from Aeternam there's nothing here I want that I haven't already seen. I'm gonna need something a little more impressive to take the plunge. So yes, I guess I'm in with the MEDIOCRE crowd.

    Though I have not seen Goatwhore yet, if they're next.

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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by TPH » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:55 am

    They are :beerwink:
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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by ExtraneouS » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:57 am

    Hoppy McGee wrote:
    ExtraneouS wrote:I wonder if Andy realizes we can see the announcement square already? :lol:


    Am I missing something? I've seen a few people saying the next band is Goatwhore like it's common knowledge. I don't see anything on the artists page?


    The folder that 70k uses to host it's images is currently publicly available. In that folder, you can find this:

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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by TPH » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:04 am

    I wouldn't have posted the picture if I were you, just giving the explanation would have been enough, you're kinda messing with the official announcements...


    ...but on the other hand, keeping the folders publicly available in 2017, they probably deserve a lesson that stings a little bit :lol:
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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by Phoenix » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:06 am

    ExtraneouS wrote:The folder that 70k uses to host it's images is currently publicly available. In that folder, you can find this:

    Why the fuck would you make that public knowledge? Now they will fix that solution.

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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by TPH » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:16 am

    Maybe it's less fun for us if they fix it, but from a security point of view, they are 10 years late...it's about time to fix this.
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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by Phoenix » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:22 am

    Is it something that was ever brought up before? No.

    And keep in mind what happens to bands that get leaked before their time - a lot of them mysteriously never get announced and don't come back. Like Metal Church and Candlemass.

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    Re: No Sleep ’Til Florida

    by Ti7aNiC » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:27 am

    ExtraneouS wrote:
    Hoppy McGee wrote:
    ExtraneouS wrote:The folder that 70k uses to host it's images is currently publicly available.


    As an IT professional, that's one of the first things I checked, lol. To be fair, this is the first time they uploaded the image long before making the announcement. But as someone else indeed said, the website is a good 10+ years behind on their security. Not much will protect them from this information leaking unless they *do not upload* the image until they are ready to announce it.
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    by Andy » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:39 am

    GOATWHORE will haunt the High Seas next February onbroad 70000TONS OF METAL, The Original, The World’s Biggest Heavy Metal Cruise. Join 2,999 metalheads from across the globe onbroad for your ultimate metal vacation!

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    Oceano?
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    Re: Alchemy Of The Caribbean Sun Cult

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    Image

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    by Phoenix » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:52 am

    Ocean bound in the October Tide? No? Just me? Okay.

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    TPH wrote:Image

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    Re: Alchemy Of The Caribbean Sun Cult

    by Evican » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:25 am

    Apart from Osbscura and Old Man's Child (of course, not possible) there's no bands beginning with "O" that interest me.

    .. And Opeth would never play the cruise.
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    by bodomdragon » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:29 am

    If the next band is also in the wishlist, it can only be either Opeth or Obituary.
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    Re: Alchemy Of The Caribbean Sun Cult

    by TPH » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:39 am

    Evican wrote:.. And Opeth would never play the cruise.

    I've seen them last month at the Hellfest, and it was nothing short of pathetic. Mikael doesn't give one flying fuck about the older stuff, he made mistakes with lyrics in two songs, and he didn't even try to hide that playing older stuff is boring the shit out of him.
    And his death metal voice has gone down from the absolute best one in the business to a complete joke now.

    It's OK to evolve, I don't like their stuff since Heritage, but I commend them for not milking the cow and repeat the same album over and over. But please, if you don't put any passion in the older stuff live, just stop playing it.
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    Re: Alchemy Of The Caribbean Sun Cult

    by Evican » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:45 am

    TPH wrote:I've seen them last month at the Hellfest, and it was nothing short of pathetic. Mikael doesn't give one flying fuck about the older stuff, he made mistakes with lyrics in two songs, and he didn't even try to hide that playing older stuff is boring the shit out of him.
    And his death metal voice has gone down from the absolute best one in the business to a complete joke now.

    It's OK to evolve, I don't like their stuff since Heritage, but I commend them for not milking the cow and repeat the same album over and over. But please, if you don't put any passion in the older stuff live, just stop playing it.

    I totally agree with this. Last time I saw them play was a few years ago in Australia and was only mildly entertained compared to previous times I'd seen them.

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    Re: Alchemy Of The Caribbean Sun Cult

    by Masterbas » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:54 am

    TPH wrote:
    Evican wrote:.. And Opeth would never play the cruise.

    I've seen them last month at the Hellfest, and it was nothing short of pathetic. Mikael doesn't give one flying fuck about the older stuff, he made mistakes with lyrics in two songs, and he didn't even try to hide that playing older stuff is boring the shit out of him.
    And his death metal voice has gone down from the absolute best one in the business to a complete joke now.

    It's OK to evolve, I don't like their stuff since Heritage, but I commend them for not milking the cow and repeat the same album over and over. But please, if you don't put any passion in the older stuff live, just stop playing it.


    I saw them in november last year and they played about 50% old stuff, from 1999 (Face of Melinda) and up. So yeah nothing from the first 4, but a bunch between Still Live, Blackwater Park, Deliverance and Damnation.
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    Re: Alchemy Of The Caribbean Sun Cult

    by Downvod » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:10 am

    TPH wrote:
    Evican wrote:.. And Opeth would never play the cruise.

    I've seen them last month at the Hellfest, and it was nothing short of pathetic. Mikael doesn't give one flying fuck about the older stuff, he made mistakes with lyrics in two songs, and he didn't even try to hide that playing older stuff is boring the shit out of him.
    And his death metal voice has gone down from the absolute best one in the business to a complete joke now.

    It's OK to evolve, I don't like their stuff since Heritage, but I commend them for not milking the cow and repeat the same album over and over. But please, if you don't put any passion in the older stuff live, just stop playing it.


    I have seen them 19 times now, and have never had this type of negative experience. Always enjoy them a lot live. Last year, they did the special Deliverance set in LA, and played 3 of the heavier songs from the album (Deliverance, By the Pain I See in Others, and Master's Apprentice). All of them sounded crushing. If they had no interest in playing the old heavier songs, I can't see why they would go out of their way to play a special set of Deliverance songs. I also heard they covered Napalm Death at a recent festival.
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    Re: Alchemy Of The Caribbean Sun Cult

    by Gratch » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:14 am

    Next one has to be The Ocean, right? If so, that would definitely be a "pull the trigger" band for me.

    The riff that kicks in at 2:04 honestly might be my favorite of all time.
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    Re: Alchemy Of The Caribbean Sun Cult

    by Masterbas » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:19 am

    Gratch wrote:Next one has to be The Ocean, right? If so, that would definitely be a "pull the trigger" band for me.

    The riff that kicks in at 2:04 honestly might be my favorite of all time.


    I would definitely catch a set of that, this is killer
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    Re: Alchemy Of The Caribbean Sun Cult

    by Shadow Son » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:20 am

    Gratch wrote:Next one has to be The Ocean, right? If so, that would definitely be a "pull the trigger" band for me.

    The riff that kicks in at 2:04 honestly might be my favorite of all time.


    I was just thinking The Ocean might be a possibility considering that clue. Granted sludge/post-metal has almost never been included in previous line-ups so it could be a stretch. I'd be happy to have them on board. How many requests did they get though, they aren't in the top 100 of the wishlist.
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    Re: Alchemy Of The Caribbean Sun Cult

    by TPH » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:22 am

    Downvod wrote:I have seen them 19 times now, and have never had this type of negative experience. Always enjoy them a lot live. Last year, they did the special Deliverance set in LA, and played 3 of the heavier songs from the album (Deliverance, By the Pain I See in Others, and Master's Apprentice). All of them sounded crushing. If they had no interest in playing the old heavier songs, I can't see why they would go out of their way to play a special set of Deliverance songs. I also heard they covered Napalm Death at a recent festival.


    By The Pain I See In Others live...10-15 years ago, I would have killed to see it. And Deliverance is my favourite album, it's got a dark atmosphere that is unmatched in their discography.
    But there is no question that Mikael's death metal voice is completely shot, any live video will show it. And I've seen him a lot of times too, probably around 15 times (only two times since Heritage came out), with their 2001 tour for Blackwater Park being the best show ever in my whole life - it even had Katatonia opening, with Last Fair Deal Gone Down just out.
    So, seeing them now, and remembering how it was 15 years ago (with Martin Lopez on drums :cry: ) isn't exactly helping. And it's a shame in a way, because the guys are all killer musicians
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    Re: Alchemy Of The Caribbean Sun Cult

    by Downvod » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:31 am

    TPH wrote:
    Downvod wrote:I have seen them 19 times now, and have never had this type of negative experience. Always enjoy them a lot live. Last year, they did the special Deliverance set in LA, and played 3 of the heavier songs from the album (Deliverance, By the Pain I See in Others, and Master's Apprentice). All of them sounded crushing. If they had no interest in playing the old heavier songs, I can't see why they would go out of their way to play a special set of Deliverance songs. I also heard they covered Napalm Death at a recent festival.


    By The Pain I See In Others live...10-15 years ago, I would have killed to see it. And Deliverance is my favourite album, it's got a dark atmosphere that is unmatched in their discography.
    But there is no question that Mikael's death metal voice is completely shot, any live video will show it. And I've seen him a lot of times too, probably around 15 times (only two times since Heritage came out), with their 2001 tour for Blackwater Park being the best show ever in my whole life - it even had Katatonia opening, with Last Fair Deal Gone Down just out.
    So, seeing them now, and remembering how it was 15 years ago (with Martin Lopez on drums :cry: ) isn't exactly helping. And it's a shame in a way, because the guys are all killer musicians


    I've been seeing them every tour since 2002. While I liked the setlist more back then, I still enjoy watching them play just as much as back in the day. Even the newer stuff sounds way better live to me. Just my opinion though.

    As far as the boat goes. Axenrot was on with Bloodbath last year and so was Katatonia. They all enjoyed the experience and perhaps they had good things to say about it with Akerfeldt. It is probably a stretch though, yes.
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    by Sgt. B » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:37 am

    Shadow Son wrote:
    Gratch wrote:Next one has to be The Ocean, right? If so, that would definitely be a "pull the trigger" band for me.

    The riff that kicks in at 2:04 honestly might be my favorite of all time.


    I was just thinking The Ocean might be a possibility considering that clue. Granted sludge/post-metal has almost never been included in previous line-ups so it could be a stretch. I'd be happy to have them on board. How many requests did they get though, they aren't in the top 100 of the wishlist.


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    Re: Alchemy Of The Caribbean Sun Cult

    by Sgt. B » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:37 am

    Downvod wrote:
    TPH wrote:
    Downvod wrote:I have seen them 19 times now, and have never had this type of negative experience. Always enjoy them a lot live. Last year, they did the special Deliverance set in LA, and played 3 of the heavier songs from the album (Deliverance, By the Pain I See in Others, and Master's Apprentice). All of them sounded crushing. If they had no interest in playing the old heavier songs, I can't see why they would go out of their way to play a special set of Deliverance songs. I also heard they covered Napalm Death at a recent festival.


    By The Pain I See In Others live...10-15 years ago, I would have killed to see it. And Deliverance is my favourite album, it's got a dark atmosphere that is unmatched in their discography.
    But there is no question that Mikael's death metal voice is completely shot, any live video will show it. And I've seen him a lot of times too, probably around 15 times (only two times since Heritage came out), with their 2001 tour for Blackwater Park being the best show ever in my whole life - it even had Katatonia opening, with Last Fair Deal Gone Down just out.
    So, seeing them now, and remembering how it was 15 years ago (with Martin Lopez on drums :cry: ) isn't exactly helping. And it's a shame in a way, because the guys are all killer musicians


    I've been seeing them every tour since 2002. While I liked the setlist more back then, I still enjoy watching them play just as much as back in the day. Even the newer stuff sounds way better live to me. Just my opinion though.

    As far as the boat goes. Axenrot was on with Bloodbath last year and so was Katatonia. They all enjoyed the experience and perhaps they had good things to say about it with Akerfeldt. It is probably a stretch though, yes.



    I've seen Opeth 31 times beginning in 2001. I agree that I liked the setlist more in the earlier years of my seeing them. I still enjoy seeing them live though. Nothing else to add to your discussion. :P
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    Re: Alchemy Of The Caribbean Sun Cult

    by macamatic » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:59 am

    Insomnium is a huge add for me, even if I am planning to see them twice in September. Is the goal to get Markus onbroad every year? (I certainly wouldn't mind.)

    The Ocean would make this a near-certainty. Just need to see if any of my friends are up to it...
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    Re: Alchemy Of The Caribbean Sun Cult

    by deathmetalpat » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:23 pm

    So far
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    I would watch if nothing else
    No where near the excitement last year :|
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    Re: Alchemy Of The Caribbean Sun Cult

    by Razor Ramon » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:33 pm

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