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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by wiggyclone » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:20 pm

    I've noticed that people complain regardless. There was a guy on FB complaining after 2 bands had been announced. I would just echo what other people have said: give it time. The great thing about this is there is something for everyone. Besides, you don't want too many bands you like otherwise you'd never have time to see them all. In my book, 5 or 6 bands is a good number. There are plenty of other things to do on the boat.
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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by Tigerclaw_x » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:50 pm

    To quote Bugs Bunny "You don't know me very well, do you". Last cruise 2017 me and my wife seen... 37 shows. Now, some bands we saw TWICE so we saw 29 bands, IIRC. For us it was literally Get up at 9am. And then shows NON STOP. Come to the cabin at around 2-3 am, pass out.. If we went to karaoke - than we would pass out even later. Heck Karaoke with Fabios (both of them singing Ave Maria) was fun. Same was for Saltatio Mortis. Super funny when white HEAVY METAL GUYS sing rap about how hard it is to be black... ROFL... Next day - Repeat. I am NOT spending 1400 + airplain tickets just to see 6 bands. Heck no. If I am spending 2k (for 2 people). I need to get my money worth in shows. Average ticket if you go to see a show in Chicago, or Milwaukee - around 40 bucks. 2 tickets - 80 bucks (for me and my wife), so we need to see so many shows as to get our money worth. Which means AT LEAST 25 shows. Everything else goes into our "Got more than we paid for" file. So it was literally - racing from show to show, with breaks for snack. Best vacation I had in a SUPER long time.
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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by meshuggah » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:51 pm

    There's no avoiding the complaints. If Andy booked Iron Maiden, there would even be someone bitching.
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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by Tigerclaw_x » Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:06 pm

    Damn. If Iron Maiden was booked... Scheisse... I would be super happy. But c'mon, you can't compare Iron Maiden to... goatwhore and other bands of that level. That's like comparing Grey Goose vodka to Popov vodka (try them side by side and see what I mean). Everyone heard of Maiden. Goatwhore... didn't even hear about them until they were announced. Wish I still didn't hear about them. Sure, people will complain. But you do need a broader appeal. "Puke into microphone Metal" appeals only to a part of the metal crowd. While bands like Iron Maiden, Helloween, Axxis, Sabaton, Axel Rudy Pell, have MUCH broader base and wider appeal. I wouldn't go see Cannibal Corpse, Death Angel or Goatwhore or Gojira if you pay me.But most death metal fans I know would have NO problems listening to Sabaton or Deathstars or Helloween
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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by mooyagi » Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:20 pm

    Tigerclaw_x wrote:"Puke into microphone Metal"

    Tigerclaw_x wrote:"puke into microphone" bands ... "We puke into microphone to 3 chords played very fast".

    Tigerclaw_x wrote:"we gurgle with sulfuric acid" bands.

    Tigerclaw_x wrote:"puke metal central"


    You're trying too hard. Also, I'm pretty sure I remember this exact conversation happening on here in the past using these same terms.
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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by meshuggah » Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:23 pm

    mooyagi wrote:
    Tigerclaw_x wrote:"Puke into microphone Metal"

    Tigerclaw_x wrote:"puke into microphone" bands ... "We puke into microphone to 3 chords played very fast".

    Tigerclaw_x wrote:"we gurgle with sulfuric acid" bands.

    Tigerclaw_x wrote:"puke metal central"


    You're trying too hard. Also, I'm pretty sure I remember this exact conversation happening on here in the past using these same terms.


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    by DrinkMoxie » Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:08 pm

    what the fuck is your beef with Goatwhore, man?! Band fucking rules, dudes are legends, and Ben is one of the best dudes in metal. Seen that dude tour with 2 broken legs after a van accident that nearly killed him. They're 100% legit, work hard as fuck, and encapsulate the spirit of metal 100%
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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by meshuggah » Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:16 pm

    DrinkMoxie wrote:what the fuck is your beef with Goatwhore, man?! Band fucking rules, dudes are legends, and Ben is one of the best dudes in metal. Seen that dude tour with 2 broken legs after a van accident that nearly killed him. They're 100% legit, work hard as fuck, and encapsulate the spirit of metal 100%


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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by TPH » Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:45 pm

    mooyagi wrote:You're trying too hard. Also, I'm pretty sure I remember this exact conversation happening on here in the past using these same terms.


    Correct, he was the genius that threw the "gurgling with sulfuric acid" stuff last year, that I am quoting from time to time. And it still makes me hope that Andy will book Sulphur Aeon :mrgreen:
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    by Pellaz » Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:10 pm

    TPH wrote:
    mooyagi wrote:You're trying too hard. Also, I'm pretty sure I remember this exact conversation happening on here in the past using these same terms.


    Correct, he was the genius that threw the "gurgling with sulfuric acid" stuff last year, that I am quoting from time to time. And it still makes me hope that Andy will book Sulphur Aeon :mrgreen:


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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by Razor Ramon » Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:54 pm

    meshuggah wrote:There's no avoiding the complaints. If Andy booked Iron Maiden, there would even be someone bitching.


    Iron Maiden would certainly get a thumbs down from me.
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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by Tigerclaw_x » Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:33 pm

    Yup. I am the one using the term "Gurgling with sulfuric acid" and "Puking into microphone", though I was not the one who invented them. In any case. ONE HUGE Powermetal band is on. Primal Fear. Makes it MUCH better. Two shows with Primal Fear, Two Shows with Rhapsody, Two shows with El Extremo. That's 6 shows already...
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    by acidbasement » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:37 pm

    Hey, can you tell us again what kind of music you don't like? We're really fucking interested and I don't think we understood you the first thirty times.
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    by Warphine » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:51 pm

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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by Iconix » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:20 am

    Tigerclaw_x wrote:So far it has been "puke metal central". Very few non death/or growley thrash bands. Reality check: this is NOT Barge to hell tour. Reality check, this is NOT death metal festival. Keep it up and I am sitting this one out. Only TWO bands are to my liking so far: Rhapsody, Sonata Arctica and In Extremo... THREE out of 12, Karl. Thats CRAPPY average. Hope there will be actually GOOD bands


    Everyone's entitled to their own tastes and preferences, and we all know just how huge the diversity of metal is and how wide the metal family extends, but seriously, this is just the douchiest possible way you could have said this. So there's only a few bands so far that you personally like...so what? Last year out of the 60 bands onboard, 12 of them were bands that I was a solid fan of ahead of time. Two years ago, which was the first year I went, it was only 10 out of 60. Both of those are lower than the 3 out of 12 ratio you're complaining about.

    Did it impact my ability to enjoy the cruise? Hell no!
    Did I end up hearing other bands that I hadn't heard before and becoming a fan as a result? Hell yes!
    Did I complain and insinuate that the bands that other people enjoyed but didn't meet my personal tastes were somehow shitty and inferior, like you've been doing with all this "puke metal" and "vomiting in the mic" and "gargling acid" and "I hope there will actually be some GOOD bands" BS? Hell no!

    Bottom line, just chill the hell out dude. Even now, hours after your first post, they are still not even 1/3 of the way through the announcements for this year, and it's easy enough to look back at the cruise history and see that every single year, they have tried really hard to put something for everyone on board, but if you're gonna bitch and moan about not getting the lineup you want, then I don't know what you're doing here. The rest of us will be here waiting for the party to start when you get off your high horse and back in the pit.
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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by sara » Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:27 am

    Tigerclaw_x wrote:ONE HUGE Powermetal band is on. Primal Fear. Makes it MUCH better. Two shows with Primal Fear, Two Shows with Rhapsody, Two shows with El Extremo. That's 6 shows already...


    Haha, you're a riot, man. Glad to hear you're in better spirits now. There will be even more to come! And when they book more bands you like, I'm gonna be on here bitching 'cause our tastes are polar opposites. But all in good fun. :lol:
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    by MonicaMM » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:18 am

    acidbasement wrote:It's pretty early to get upset, and 70K is about way more than the bands anyway, so whatever.

    But seriously Andy, bring Tobias Sammet onboard or I'm puking in the pool.


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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by metalmaciejmetal » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:50 am

    MonicaMM wrote:
    Yes!!! Tobias Sammet, pleeeeeease!!!
    I know Avantasia could be too much due to everyone's schedules but Edguy would be great! :D


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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by Malaka » Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:01 pm

    I'm angry. This is supposed to be a METAL cruise! All the metal in the world and we have rock bands like Rhapsody, Sonata Antarctica, El Extremo, and Primal False on the boat, with their silly yodeling and keybroads and songs about unicorns and fucking castles and stupid shit like that bro. What's metal about that shit? I know the fucking hairlip grocery bagger at my neighborhood market would book in a second if we had those spots filled with REAL METAL bands like Embryonic Devourment, Anal Vomit, Excrementory Grindfuckers, and Enbilulugugal! Where is the REAL METAL BRO?! :stagger:
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    by meshuggah » Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:18 pm

    Malaka wrote:I'm angry. This is supposed to be a METAL cruise! All the metal in the world and we have rock bands like Rhapsody, Sonata Antarctica, El Extremo, and Primal False on the boat, with their silly yodeling and keybroads and songs about unicorns and fucking castles and stupid shit like that bro. What's metal about that shit? I know the fucking hairlip grocery bagger at my neighborhood market would book in a second if we had those spots filled with REAL METAL bands like Embryonic Devourment, Anal Vomit, Excrementory Grindfuckers, and Enbilulugugal! Where is the REAL METAL BRO?! :stagger:


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    by Jotunheimr » Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:28 pm

    Malaka wrote:I'm angry. This is supposed to be a METAL cruise! All the metal in the world and we have rock bands like Rhapsody, Sonata Antarctica, El Extremo, and Primal False on the boat, with their silly yodeling and keybroads and songs about unicorns and fucking castles and stupid shit like that bro. What's metal about that shit? I know the fucking hairlip grocery bagger at my neighborhood market would book in a second if we had those spots filled with REAL METAL bands like Embryonic Devourment, Anal Vomit, Excrementory Grindfuckers, and Enbilulugugal! Where is the REAL METAL BRO?! :stagger:


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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by Malaka » Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:42 pm

    Jotunheimr wrote:You can blame it on a recent worldwide shortage of sulphuric acid.


    Oh. Well with these tutti fruity fucking bands onbroad, there surely won't be a shortage of puke. :belly:
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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by mooyagi » Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:28 pm

    Malaka wrote:
    Jotunheimr wrote:You can blame it on a recent worldwide shortage of sulphuric acid.


    Oh. Well with these tutti fruity fucking bands onbroad, there surely won't be a shortage of puke. :belly:


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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by meshuggah » Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:33 pm

    Andy needs to book GOJIRA. Their genre is WAY underrepresented :evil:
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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by Malaka » Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:40 pm

    meshuggah wrote:Andy needs to book GOJIRA. Their genre is WAY underrepresented :evil:


    Yes, because the non-puke, non-sing vocals would make tigerclaw's equilibrium explode.
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    by DrinkMoxie » Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:56 pm

    meshuggah wrote:Andy needs to book GOJIRA. Their genre is WAY underrepresented :evil:

    Has any band that's cancelled EVER made it up on a later cruise? Not that I can recall...
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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by ExtraneouS » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:04 pm

    DrinkMoxie wrote:
    meshuggah wrote:Andy needs to book GOJIRA. Their genre is WAY underrepresented :evil:

    Has any band that's cancelled EVER made it up on a later cruise? Not that I can recall...

    Kamelot canceled one year, and they were back last year.
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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by DrinkMoxie » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:43 pm

    ExtraneouS wrote:
    DrinkMoxie wrote:
    meshuggah wrote:Andy needs to book GOJIRA. Their genre is WAY underrepresented :evil:

    Has any band that's cancelled EVER made it up on a later cruise? Not that I can recall...

    Kamelot canceled one year, and they were back last year.

    Okay then... That's 1
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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by Jotunheimr » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:15 pm

    DrinkMoxie wrote:
    ExtraneouS wrote:
    DrinkMoxie wrote:Has any band that's cancelled EVER made it up on a later cruise? Not that I can recall...

    Kamelot canceled one year, and they were back last year.

    Okay then... That's 1


    Stratovarius played on the 2012 cruise after cancelling in 2011. Same with Belphegor who cancelled their appearance on barge but played the 2016 cruise.
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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by DrinkMoxie » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:43 pm

    Jotunheimr wrote:
    ExtraneouS wrote:
    DrinkMoxie wrote:Has any band that's cancelled EVER made it up on a later cruise? Not that I can recall...

    Kamelot canceled one year, and they were back last year.


    Stratovarius played on the 2012 cruise after cancelling in 2011. Same with Belphegor who cancelled their appearance on barge but played the 2016 cruise.

    Okay then, that's 3... So then it's about time for Hypocrisy & Xentrix
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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by mooyagi » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:49 pm

    DrinkMoxie wrote:So then it's about time for Hypocrisy & Xentrix


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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by Pamela » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:05 am

    Tigerclaw_x wrote:So far it has been "puke metal central". Very few non death/or growley thrash bands. Reality check: this is NOT Barge to hell tour. Reality check, this is NOT death metal festival. Keep it up and I am sitting this one out. Only TWO bands are to my liking so far: Rhapsody, Sonata Arctica and In Extremo... THREE out of 12, Karl. Thats CRAPPY average. Hope there will be actually GOOD bands



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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by Stained Class » Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:30 pm

    Pamela wrote:
    Tigerclaw_x wrote:So far it has been "puke metal central". Very few non death/or growley thrash bands. Reality check: this is NOT Barge to hell tour. Reality check, this is NOT death metal festival. Keep it up and I am sitting this one out. Only TWO bands are to my liking so far: Rhapsody, Sonata Arctica and In Extremo... THREE out of 12, Karl. Thats CRAPPY average. Hope there will be actually GOOD bands



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    by Pamela » Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:42 pm

    Stained Class wrote:is it a crappy average though? 3/12 means you'll have 15/60 which means 30 sets total. Still pretty good if you're picky. Ville usually has way less sets than that to watch and he never whines about it.



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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by Twilightgirl » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:15 pm

    I'm sure there will be plenty of bands you will like. This is going to be my fourth cruise and this year we booked our airfare before any lineup or booking info. Was released. Also had our hotel booked March 3. Haven't been too thrilled about the bands announced yet but sure it will turn out fine. Also already seeing some of the bands we have never heard of are quite good.
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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by Memnoch » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:42 am

    sara wrote:There are guys who go every year and like hardly any bands.


    :roll:


    Figures that as soon as we get one "brutal" band, the weenies are bitching. :lol:
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    by Memnoch » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:45 am

    Malaka wrote:REAL METAL bands like Embryonic Devourment


    Holy shit that would be awesome. If Embryonic Devourment gets added, I'd seriously consider booking.
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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by headlinerluxi » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:47 am

    :shred: :shred: :shred: :shred: :death: :death: :death: :death:

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    Re: VERY unhappy with line up so far.

    by Dutchguy-Tim » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:00 am

    boo fucking hoo i don't like the bands so far.
    so what, the line up of the first cruise hasn't matched yet.
    no jawdrop band for me yet. but hey i like korpiklaani, i like cannibal corpse, i like quite a few bands so far.

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