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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Phoenix » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:29 am

    Actually, since we're talking about the new ship, did I read these plans wrong or did the Café on the Promenade get removed? Couldn't find it when I looked at the plans on RC's website.
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by mbob » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:22 am

    Phoenix wrote:Actually, since we're talking about the new ship, did I read these plans wrong or did the Café on the Promenade get removed? Couldn't find it when I looked at the plans on RC's website.


    The Café is still there. Don't know why they did not label it on the deck plans.
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by cegr80 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:41 am

    mbob wrote:
    Phoenix wrote:Actually, since we're talking about the new ship, did I read these plans wrong or did the Café on the Promenade get removed? Couldn't find it when I looked at the plans on RC's website.


    The Café is still there. Don't know why they did not label it on the deck plans.
    Good .. I still need those sandwiches for a change after I get tired of eating all that pizza
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Bob » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:00 am

    cegr80 wrote:
    mbob wrote:
    Phoenix wrote:Actually, since we're talking about the new ship, did I read these plans wrong or did the Café on the Promenade get removed? Couldn't find it when I looked at the plans on RC's website.


    The Café is still there. Don't know why they did not label it on the deck plans.
    Good .. I still need those sandwiches for a change after I get tired of eating all that pizza


    Oh good news that it's still there. My caffeine pit stop shop.

    Don't know why it's not labeled on the deck plan either. https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-s ... ns/1836/05

    It is listed tho in the descriptions. https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-s ... -promenade
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Phoenix » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:19 am

    cegr80 wrote:
    mbob wrote:
    Phoenix wrote:Actually, since we're talking about the new ship, did I read these plans wrong or did the Café on the Promenade get removed? Couldn't find it when I looked at the plans on RC's website.


    The Café is still there. Don't know why they did not label it on the deck plans.
    Good .. I still need those sandwiches for a change after I get tired of eating all that pizza

    I can't eat gluten, so eating the filling out of the little sandwiches is all I have going for me unless I have time for the Windjammer. Without the Café I'd be in trouble.
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by cowboy71 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:42 pm

    Did you mean 9 rather than 10? I notice a new cabin (9237) on 9. Nothing on 10 though....
    mbob wrote:The public areas at the aft elevators were converted into 4 new cabins on decks 6, 7, 8 & 10.

    Deck 5 - The cigar bar (Connoisseur Club) is gone and is now the library.


    cowboy71 wrote:
    cowboy71 wrote:For those interested, here are the key changes as I see them:
    Deck 2 - lots of new interior rooms
    Deck 3 - Interior cabins replacing Labyrinth, new interiors around photo/art gallery
    Deck 4 - new eatery, new bar & arcade
    Deck 5 - changes to bars and eateries
    Deck 6 - couple of new staterooms (6716 and 6416)
    Decks 7-10 - no noticeable changes
    Deck 11 - Couple of new cabins ON THE SAME DECK AS THE POOL STAGE(!!)
    Deck 12 - Bunch of new cabins
    Deck 13 - changes to attractions
    Deck 14 - new "Olive or Twist"
    Deck 15 - Escape Room replaces chapel


    Went back and had another look at the plans and noticed two staterooms on deck 6 - as noted above, 6716 and 6416:

    https://70000tons.com/deck-plans/deck-6/

    https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-s ... ns/1836/06

    Wondering..... are they new? Or were they just not listed on the 70k deck plans because they got re-purposed or were reserved?

    Just seemed a little odd to me!
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by cowboy71 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:45 pm

    Updated

    Deck 2 - lots of new interior rooms
    Deck 3 - Interior cabins replacing Labyrinth, new interiors around photo/art gallery
    Deck 4 - new eatery, new bar & arcade
    Deck 5 - changes to bars and eateries. The cigar bar (Connoisseur Club) is gone and is now the library.
    Deck 6 - couple of new staterooms (6137, 6716 and 6416)
    Decks 7-9 - The public areas at the aft elevators were converted into new cabins
    Deck 10 - no noticeable changes
    Deck 11 - Couple of new cabins ON THE SAME DECK AS THE POOL STAGE(!!)
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    Deck 14 - new "Olive or Twist"
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by mbob » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:05 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:Did you mean 9 rather than 10? I notice a new cabin (9237) on 9. Nothing on 10 though....


    Cabins

    1343
    1345
    1347
    1349

    behind the aft elevators on deck 10.
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by cowboy71 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:10 pm

    mbob wrote:
    cowboy71 wrote:Did you mean 9 rather than 10? I notice a new cabin (9237) on 9. Nothing on 10 though....


    Cabins

    1343
    1345
    1347
    1349

    behind the aft elevators on deck 10.

    Ah right - I see them :) Thanks!
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by cowboy71 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:11 pm

    Further updated:

    Deck 2 - lots of new interior rooms
    Deck 3 - Interior cabins replacing Labyrinth, new interiors around photo/art gallery
    Deck 4 - new eatery, new bar & arcade
    Deck 5 - changes to bars and eateries. The cigar bar (Connoisseur Club) is gone and is now the library.
    Deck 6 - couple of new staterooms (6137, 6716 and 6416)
    Decks 7-9 - The public areas at the aft elevators were converted into new cabins
    Deck 10 - 4 new cabins, behind the aft elevators
    Deck 11 - Couple of new cabins ON THE SAME DECK AS THE POOL STAGE(!!)
    Deck 12 - Bunch of new cabins
    Deck 13 - changes to attractions
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by cowboy71 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:34 pm

    mbob wrote:
    cowboy71 wrote:Did you mean 9 rather than 10? I notice a new cabin (9237) on 9. Nothing on 10 though....


    Cabins

    1343
    1345
    1347
    1349

    behind the aft elevators on deck 10.

    INTERESTINGLY, while according to all I've read, 107 new cabins have been added in the refurbishment, if you compare the official deck plan with the 70k deck plan, there are actually 133 cabins different. So I guess there are a few that get blocked out by UMC for other purposes (ie BEEEEEER).

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    2607 2609 2617 2407 2411 2415 2419 2423 2427 2409 2413 2417 2421 2425 2317 2627 2325 2327 2329 2331 2659 2661 2663 2665 2667 2669 2671 2673 2357 2359 2361 2363 2367 2369

    Deck 3
    3541 3545 3549 3553 3557 3543 3547 3551 3555 3245 3251 3241 3243 3247 3249 3253 3559 3257 3255 3305 3307 3309 3311 3313 3315 3317 3323 3325 3327 3329

    Deck 6
    6137 6716 6416 6443 6445 6447 6449

    Deck 7
    7139 7441 7443 7445 7447

    Deck 8
    8237 8135 8441 8443 8445 8447

    Deck 9
    9237

    Deck 10
    1343 1345 1347 1349

    Deck 11
    1100 1101 1102 1103 1104 1106

    Deck 12
    1802 1804 1806 1808 1810 1812 1814 1816 1818 1820 1822 1824 1826 1828 1830 1832 1834 1836 1838 1840 1852 1854 1856 1858 1860 1862 1864 1866 1868 1870 1872 1874 1876 1878 1880 1882 1884 1886 1888 1890
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Godflesh » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:07 pm

    I was disappointed to find out that the Royal Suite and the two Owner Suites on deck 10 have been there all along, but hidden on the 70000tons web site, probably reserved for the 3 headliners.
    I thought the bigger suite came with the retrofit, but that must have been another boat.
    No more “bigger suites might attract bigger bands” theory :-(
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Godflesh » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:50 pm

    Shiprocked (January 2019) is already sold out, with ZERO bands announced: http://www.shiprocked.com/lineup/
    At least they were smart enough to start accepting people’s money. There’s a refund clause if you don’t like the lineup once it gets announced.
    Somebody might get ideas...
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Pellaz » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:42 am

    Speedy wrote:
    cowboy71 wrote:
    Went back and had another look at the plans and noticed two staterooms on deck 6 - as noted above, 6716 and 6416:

    https://70000tons.com/deck-plans/deck-6/

    https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-s ... ns/1836/06

    Wondering..... are they new? Or were they just not listed on the 70k deck plans because they got re-purposed or were reserved?

    Just seemed a little odd to me!

    I used to be one giant suite, with space for up to 14 people, that was blocked by 70k for whatever reason. After refurb it was split into two standard family suites like the ones on decks 8 and 9.

    Edit:
    You can still see the "Villa Suite" on the Freedom deck plan:
    https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-s ... ns/1821/06


    Hard to be sure, but I suspect UMC reserved that big Villa Suite (renamed from "Presidential" Suite because Trump) either for a headliner band, or for Andy himself and his permanent senior staff. It used to hold up to 14 people at full capacity.
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Jotunheimr » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:34 pm

    Those scurvy dogs stole our beloved* catchphrase.

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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Godflesh » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:28 pm

    Phoenix wrote:All signs point to a logistical issue. I have friends who run events for my province, and when they run into problems, they have to leave people hanging. While they can usually get it working for the year, the NEXT year has some changes. So while 2019 is, I'd say, 90% likely to go ahead without a hitch, 2020 may have some substantial changes in store. Which we were pretty sure it was going to anyway, since it's Round 10.

    I’m thinking about this again. Perhaps UMC is giving bands the choice between the last year on the old boat, and 2020 on the new boat, and perhaps even another Barge To Hell.
    So the delay could be caused by trying to get a quorum of bands for two years.
    In a similar vein, Shiprocked is doing their 10th cruise, and they didn’t announce any band before they were sold out.
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    by cowboy71 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:37 pm

    That's a very good point. I would imagine more than ever, scheduling of bands would be difficult for this one :/

    You would imagine that every band would prefer to be part of the 'big' 10th cruise celebration given a choice, and if they are on 2019 then no 2020 for them.

    That, combined with the logistic issues of the re-fitted Independence to deal with for 2019, and the (guessing) new ship for the 2020 cruise.... Lots of new complications to contend with.
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Amalu » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:54 am

    cowboy71 wrote:You would imagine that every band would prefer to be part of the 'big' 10th cruise celebration given a choice, and if they are on 2019 then no 2020 for them.


    Maybe this could be resolved by having exceptional rules for the anniversary cruise.
    If 2020 is indeed on an Oasis Class vessel that will mean significantly more passenger and thus also more bands (as it has been done for the switch to the Freedom Class ship).

    cowboy71 wrote:That, combined with the logistic issues of the re-fitted Independence to deal with for 2019, and the (guessing) new ship for the 2020 cruise.... Lots of new complications to contend with.

    Would be nice though to give the fans just a little bit of info. Sure thing that nobody will discuss internal details in public, but a short update like: "Hey guys! We're still working out some logistical details and will need another X weeks before we can open booking/announce bands."
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    by doomguy » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:56 am

    Amalu wrote:Would be nice though to give the fans just a little bit of info. Sure thing that nobody will discuss internal details in public, but a short update like: "Hey guys! We're still working out some logistical details and will need another X weeks before we can open booking/announce bands."

    That's almost like saying "Soon" but with more words.
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Pellaz » Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:42 pm

    Amalu wrote:
    cowboy71 wrote:You would imagine that every band would prefer to be part of the 'big' 10th cruise celebration given a choice, and if they are on 2019 then no 2020 for them.


    Maybe this could be resolved by having exceptional rules for the anniversary cruise.
    If 2020 is indeed on an Oasis Class vessel that will mean significantly more passenger and thus also more bands (as it has been done for the switch to the Freedom Class ship).


    Sure. Andy could waive his (presumed) rule about bands not repeating two years in a row for 2020. I don't think it's ever been presented as a hard-and-fast rule, either...just a trend that we've noticed every year.

    Amalu wrote:
    cowboy71 wrote:That, combined with the logistic issues of the re-fitted Independence to deal with for 2019, and the (guessing) new ship for the 2020 cruise.... Lots of new complications to contend with.

    Would be nice though to give the fans just a little bit of info. Sure thing that nobody will discuss internal details in public, but a short update like: "Hey guys! We're still working out some logistical details and will need another X weeks before we can open booking/announce bands."

    Yep. Sure would be nice.
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by mbob » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:18 am

    I forgot to mention this. The last night of the 2017 cruise I was sitting with Uli Jon Roth in the Schooner Bar and he told me that he was already booked for the 2019 cruise. I will have no issue if this is true because it is a pleasure to watch him play.
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by meshuggah » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:33 am

    mbob wrote:I forgot to mention this. The last night of the 2017 cruise I was sitting with Uli Jon Roth in the Schooner Bar and he told me that he was already booked for the 2019 cruise. I will have no issue if this is true because it is a pleasure to watch him play.


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    by cowboy71 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:29 pm

    Giving this a bump, adding the Uli info.

    Amorphis - they love the cruise
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    by Pellaz » Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:48 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:Giving this a bump, adding the Uli info.
    Therion - they love boat

    Plus, it would be great if they could return and perform the two different sets they'd have LIKED to have played last time, but couldn't due to Christofer's injury.
    Vital Remains - lead singer on as a cruiser in 2018

    So was their recently-hired touring drummer. :D (Chris Dovas, who also drums for Seven Spires)
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Amalu » Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:46 am

    Pellaz wrote:Plus, it would be great if they could return and perform the two different sets they'd have LIKED to have played last time, but couldn't due to Christofer's injury.


    Christofer was really pissed about that injury. He mentioned it during a concert in Switzerland (Z7 - Pratteln) and promised to play extra long that night now that he was healthy again. They went for almost 3 hours... Great show.
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Amalu » Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:03 am

    Demons and Wizards had promised more dates today after being announced for W:O:A 2019.

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    We are thrilled to announce that we will be performing on the following dates:

    31.05.2019 - Garage, Saarbrücken, Germany
    01.06.2019 - Z7, Pratteln, Switzerland
    02.06.2019 - Batschkapp, Frankfurt, Germany

    Check out the Events and Tour Dates tabs for information and ticket links.

    Stay tuned!


    No boat yet. But no conflicting schedule either.

    Also on a side note: The Z7 in Pratteln is literally 15 minutes from my home and my favorite concert venue. So that's good :viking:
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Phoenix » Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:41 am

    Amalu wrote:
    Pellaz wrote:Plus, it would be great if they could return and perform the two different sets they'd have LIKED to have played last time, but couldn't due to Christofer's injury.


    Christofer was really pissed about that injury. He mentioned it during a concert in Switzerland (Z7 - Pratteln) and promised to play extra long that night now that he was healthy again. They went for almost 3 hours... Great show.

    You should have heard him on the boat pre-surgery, when he wasn't sure he would ever be able to play again. I don't think there was a still heart (because metalheads that aren't me never admit to crying) on that pool deck when he gave that speech.
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    by Speedy » Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:45 am

    In the extremely tenuous rumor category:
    I tagged a bunch of bands in the "which first timers would you like to see?" FB-post, and got likes from Dark Sarah, Ronny Thorsen from Viper Solfa and Kirsten Jørgensen from Evig Natt.
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Amalu » Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:57 am

    I have tagged Excelsis in that Facebook post and got a like from them within 5 minutes.

    As they are a rather small Swiss Folk Metal band who's lyrics are in a mix of Swiss-German and English, I highly doubt they will ever make the boat tough. But you never know, our Skipper might enjoy them.

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    by Speedy » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:15 am

    We had Abinchova in 2016, so a small Swiss folk metal band isn't unprecedented.
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Amalu » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:29 am

    I did not know them before. Just listening to their set at W:O:A 2017.

    There's more to the Swiss metal scene then Celtic Frost. I'm always learning something more., thanks Speedy. ;)
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Gratch » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:57 am

    (apologies if I mentioned this already in this thread)

    We talked with Riley and Greg from Allegaeon when they came through Salt Lake last fall, mostly reminiscing about their insane Pyramid Lounge show. They said 70K was one of their favorite things they've ever done as a band, and that they'd do it again in a heartbeat if asked.

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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Pellaz » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:47 am

    Phoenix wrote:
    Amalu wrote:Christofer was really pissed about that injury. He mentioned it during a concert in Switzerland (Z7 - Pratteln) and promised to play extra long that night now that he was healthy again. They went for almost 3 hours... Great show.

    You should have heard him on the boat pre-surgery, when he wasn't sure he would ever be able to play again. I don't think there was a still heart (because metalheads that aren't me never admit to crying) on that pool deck when he gave that speech.


    I wasn't crying, but.....oh wow, the feelz.

    I spoke to him at length* about the whole injury thing during that 70K and I could tell he was angry/pissed/heartbroken about it, and not being able to play two different sets on the boat as they'd normally do. They chose a setlist that was intended to minimize his pain while playing guitar (repetitive motions, I think, were the biggest problem)....EXCEPT for "To Mega Therion," which they felt they HAD to play...and which was agonizing for him both times they played it. It was worst for him during their Alhambra set (oddly enough), and if you were watching closely during "TMT" you saw he had to quit playing for a bit due to the pain.
    What a fucking trooper he was!


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    * although not quite as long as the 3-hour marathon chat we had during their previous 70K
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Godflesh » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:07 am

    Amalu wrote:I did not know them before. Just listening to their set at W:O:A 2017.

    There's more to the Swiss metal scene then Celtic Frost. I'm always learning something more., thanks Speedy. ;)

    A few years ago, UMC needed a filler band at the last minute (2 weeks from departure) so they invited GURD from Switzerland, and I really connected with those guys. Great guys and awesome innovative thrash metal. I should check out what they became.
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Speedy » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:35 pm

    Visions of Atlantis has a gig in Colombia on 06.02. More across the pond gigs TBA.
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by CaughtInAWeb » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:20 pm

    Speedy wrote:Visions of Atlantis has a gig in Colombia on 06.02. More across the pond gigs TBA.


    Miami is probably the North American airport with the most direct flights to Colombia. It would make absolute sense to fly from there on 05.02.

    From VoA’s Facebook: “ Visions of Atlantis’s ship will cross the Seven Seas and reach the other end of the world in February 2019! Bogota is the first announcement, where should we play next?!”

    Interesting announcement ...
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by sven321 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:38 pm

    Hi,
    in an interview back in May the Visions of Atlantis drummer announced that they will be on 70K 2019.
    Link to video (in German) interesting part starting around 1:50...
    https://www.facebook.com/HiWayRegionalT ... 229446875/
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Ethrivas » Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:30 am

    Gratch wrote:(apologies if I mentioned this already in this thread)

    We talked with Riley and Greg from Allegaeon when they came through Salt Lake last fall, mostly reminiscing about their insane Pyramid Lounge show. They said 70K was one of their favorite things they've ever done as a band, and that they'd do it again in a heartbeat if asked.

    For whatever that's worth...

    That would be awesome man, one of my bucket list bands
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Amalu » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:20 pm

    So this is something from the 70k Facebook page:

    Image

    So at least for now there will not be any change to the Gold/Silver booking system.
    Upcomming gigs 2019: E.A.V.; Korpiklaani; Manowar; Wacken 2019; PFF 2019
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    Re: 2019 Rumors and Predictions

    by Pellaz » Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:33 pm

    Amalu wrote:So this is something from the 70k Facebook page:

    Image

    So at least for now there will not be any change to the Gold/Silver booking system.


    Or at least, not as far as their social media people have been told about.
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    Abbath--Aeternam--Agalloch--Agathodaimon--Alestorm--Allegaeon--Amon.Amarth--Amorphis--Animals.As.Leaders--Arsis--Ayreon--Bal.Sagoth--Barren.Earth--Battlelore--Behemoth--Black.Crown.Initiate--Blind.Guardian--Borknagar--Cannibal.Corpse--CoB--CoF--Cynic--Dark.Tranquillity--Dimmu.Borgir--Dragonforce--Edge.of.Sanity--Witherscape--anything.Dan.Swano--Einherjer--Enslaved--
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