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What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

by cowboy71 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:29 am

All bands from 70k 2017
- All bands from Monsters of Rock 2018

- Accept (touring Europe)
- Anathema (playing Cruise To The Edge)
- Epica (have said, not next year)
- Haken (playing Cruise To The Edge)
- Kvelertak (touring with Metallica)
- Magnum (drummer for Magnum also playing for Thunder. As they are on Monsters of Rock I think its fairly unlikely he would be able to do both cruises).
- Marillion (playing Cruise To The Edge)
- Negura Bunget (Negura has passed away RIP)
- Nightwish (wont be ready)
- Thank You Scientist (playing Cruise To The Edge)
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Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

by Sgt. B » Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:29 am

I thought I saw that the MORC listed dates as February 11 - 16, 2018. The Magnum drummer could be available for 70K before that.
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Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

by Evican » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:06 am

EPICA - Spoke to Mark last year and he said that cruising once every 5 years for them is enough, so it's likely that they won't be back for another few years.
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Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

by MaidenNewJersey » Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:02 pm

much to my chagrin, probably both Amon Amarth & Primordial. I hear that Amon is just too expensive at this point, and Nemtheanga has said he's not a fan of being on the boat. Hopefully he can be talked into it though!
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Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

by Stained Class » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:46 pm

The only reason Amon Amarth weren't on last year is because they wouldn't be able to get into the states because their work visas for their tour started a couple months later. Bands will usually do the cruise for cheaper just cus they wanna do it. If they can afford Nightwish/Apocalyptica/Anthrax etc they can afford Amon Amarth. I've also heard of bands saying they would never do the cruise and then doing it multiple times. I wouldn't rule out either of those. Unlikely, sure, but not completely ruled out. Same as Epica.
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Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

by Memnoch » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:27 am

MaidenNewJersey wrote:Nemtheanga has said he's not a fan of being on the boat.


Yet he's been on the cruise already twice with Twilight of the Gods. :beerwink:
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Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

by Jotunheimr » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:47 am

Memnoch wrote:
MaidenNewJersey wrote:Nemtheanga has said he's not a fan of being on the boat.


Yet he's been on the cruise already twice with Twilight of the Gods. :beerwink:


Being on the cruise is a tough job but I guess someone's gotta do it. I admire him for his selflessness and dedication in stepping up to the plate and taking one for the team.
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by General Zod » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:18 am

Stained Class wrote:The only reason Amon Amarth weren't on last year is because they wouldn't be able to get into the states because their work visas for their tour started a couple months later.

As they don't need work visas for the cruise, why would that matter?
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by captaingabbeh » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:26 am

General Zod wrote:
Stained Class wrote:The only reason Amon Amarth weren't on last year is because they wouldn't be able to get into the states because their work visas for their tour started a couple months later.

As they don't need work visas for the cruise, why would that matter?


Mostly because US border security gets really fussy about work visas - if someone had a visa that started later than they were trying to get into the states, it would absolutely raise questions at the border. I needed roughly 15 pages of paperwork when I went into the US for a business trip for less than a week last year (for which I was getting paid by my Canadian employer), and bought myself a free round of bonus questioning at the border when I mentioned that I'm a contractor this year.

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Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

by Downvod » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:55 am

Stained Class wrote:The only reason Amon Amarth weren't on last year is because they wouldn't be able to get into the states because their work visas for their tour started a couple months later. Bands will usually do the cruise for cheaper just cus they wanna do it. If they can afford Nightwish/Apocalyptica/Anthrax etc they can afford Amon Amarth. I've also heard of bands saying they would never do the cruise and then doing it multiple times. I wouldn't rule out either of those. Unlikely, sure, but not completely ruled out. Same as Epica.


Yeah, I heard the rumor about Amon Amarth being the last band for 2016 as well, but I am not sure where it came from or if it was actually true. Someone heard from a 'good source' that 'Grand Magus' was booked for 2017, it was not so... Someone said they heard straight from Peavy that Rage was booked for 2017, it was not so... I am inclined to believe that all of the rumors we have heard about Amon Amarth over the last couple years are not true as well. Especially if visas are the reason stated where they did not end up playing. I was talking to the guitarist from Cruachan on this year's cruise. He said he loved the event, mostly because they can't afford US visas to play stateside but did not need them for 70k.
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by Razor Ramon » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:29 am

Anathema is out, they play Cruise To The Edge at the same time as 70000 Tons. :cry:
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FUCK! This is a major bummer :cry:
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by cowboy71 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:01 pm

HAKEN, MARILLION and THANK YOU SCIENTIST are on that cruise too so they are all out.
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Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

by tvrdkvlt » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:44 am

Seems Kvelertak can be ruled out too, touring with Metallica
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by Razor Ramon » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:54 am

The Nightwish camp is telling me they won't be ready in time and they are out..
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by jdch28 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:55 am

Razor Ramon wrote:Anathema is out, they play Cruise To The Edge at the same time as 70000 Tons. :cry:

cowboy71 wrote:HAKEN, MARILLION and THANK YOU SCIENTIST are on that cruise too so they are all out.


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Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

by Bob » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:11 am

Evican wrote:EPICA - Spoke to Mark last year and he said that cruising once every 5 years for them is enough, so it's likely that they won't be back for another few years.


Awe shucks! I was rooting for Epica, especially after watching the Jani Kazaltzis video from last year.

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Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

by Jotunheimr » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:07 pm

tvrdkvlt wrote:Seems Kvelertak can be ruled out too, touring with Metallica
Feb. 1, 2018 – Lisbon, Portugal – MEO Arena
Feb. 3, 2018 – Madrid, Spain – Wizink Center
Feb. 5, 2018 – Madrid, Spain – Wizink Center

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So I guess that means Metallica is ruled out too. :(
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Jotunheimr wrote:
tvrdkvlt wrote:Seems Kvelertak can be ruled out too, touring with Metallica
Feb. 1, 2018 – Lisbon, Portugal – MEO Arena
Feb. 3, 2018 – Madrid, Spain – Wizink Center
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BOOO!


So I guess that means Metallica is ruled out too. :(



pfffhahah didn't even think of mentioning them. Yes, I believe you are right :P
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Negură Bunget. Can't imagine them carrying on without Negru. :cry:
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mooyagi wrote:Negură Bunget. Can't imagine them carrying on without Negru. :cry:

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Razor Ramon wrote:The Nightwish camp is telling me they won't be ready in time and they are out..



They are telling you? Enlighten me
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Metaladdict187 wrote:
Razor Ramon wrote:The Nightwish camp is telling me they won't be ready in time and they are out..



They are telling you? Enlighten me


I heard from two different Nightwish crew people that they won't be ready yet.
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Razor Ramon wrote:
Metaladdict187 wrote:
Razor Ramon wrote:The Nightwish camp is telling me they won't be ready in time and they are out..



They are telling you? Enlighten me


I heard from two different Nightwish crew people that they won't be ready yet.


We can't consider that an "official" ruling-out (like tour-dates booked during the cruise, etc.), so I'd suggest bands that are in "twilight" areas like this be listed in, say, orange, for "unlikely." We'd still use red for "officially ruled out" and green for confirmed bands....whenever Andy gets around to booking 'em. :twisted:
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Pellaz wrote:We can't consider that an "official" ruling-out (like tour-dates booked during the cruise, etc.), so I'd suggest bands that are in "twilight" areas like this be listed in, say, orange, for "unlikely." We'd still use red for "officially ruled out" and green for confirmed bands....whenever Andy gets around to booking 'em. :twisted:


Their tour manager and one of their crew guys told me no. Maybe I'll get an even harder no if I end up seeing Finberg this weekend.
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Razor Ramon wrote:Their tour manager and one of their crew guys told me no. Maybe I'll get an even harder no if I end up seeing Finberg this weekend.

Also Floor just had a baby? Typically a year old baby is not a good thing to fly across the continent and spend five days working on a loud boat filled with metalheads.
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Phoenix wrote:
Razor Ramon wrote:Their tour manager and one of their crew guys told me no. Maybe I'll get an even harder no if I end up seeing Finberg this weekend.

Also Floor just had a baby? Typically a year old baby is not a good thing to fly across the continent and spend five days working on a loud boat filled with metalheads.

I could be wrong about this, but didn't Annette bring her baby when they played in 2012?
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Razor Ramon wrote:
Pellaz wrote:We can't consider that an "official" ruling-out (like tour-dates booked during the cruise, etc.), so I'd suggest bands that are in "twilight" areas like this be listed in, say, orange, for "unlikely." We'd still use red for "officially ruled out" and green for confirmed bands....whenever Andy gets around to booking 'em. :twisted:


Their tour manager and one of their crew guys told me no. Maybe I'll get an even harder no if I end up seeing Finberg this weekend.



Well shit, I saw Finberg and totally forgot to ask him..
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by Metaladdict187 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:22 pm

Hey, its all good. I was just curious as to where the intel came from. Good to know, BTW. annette did in fact have her baby on Board. He was rocking out to Therion earmuffs and all.
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Spellcaster have called it quits. Cripper level band, but still :cry:
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No future plans for Symphony X. Doesn't totally rule them out for 70K 2018 but it would make them highly unlikely.

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cowboy71 wrote:No future plans for Symphony X. Doesn't totally rule them out for 70K 2018 but it would make them highly unlikely.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/russel ... this-time/



it makes Symphony X highly unlikely, but it also puts Adrenaline Mob on the radar:
explaining that he is "a hundred percent committed" to his other band ADRENALINE MOB.
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Jotunheimr wrote:So I guess that means Metallica is ruled out too. :(


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Mr.Kito wrote:
cowboy71 wrote:No future plans for Symphony X. Doesn't totally rule them out for 70K 2018 but it would make them highly unlikely.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/russel ... this-time/



it makes Symphony X highly unlikely, but it also puts Adrenaline Mob on the radar:
explaining that he is "a hundred percent committed" to his other band ADRENALINE MOB.
Read more at http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/russel ... yhyuxKF.99


That really, really sucks. Adrenaline Mob is terrible.
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by Goddess of Metal » Sat May 06, 2017 10:36 am

cowboy71 wrote:HAKEN, MARILLION and THANK YOU SCIENTIST are on that cruise too so they are all out.


Although I prefer Fish on vocals, I have to see Marillion before I die!!!!! :cry:
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Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

by Goddess of Metal » Sat May 06, 2017 10:40 am

mooyagi wrote:
That really, really sucks. Adrenaline Mob is terrible.



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Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

by General Zod » Wed May 10, 2017 10:43 am

Mr.Kito wrote:it makes Symphony X highly unlikely, but it also puts Adrenaline Mob on the radar


Adrenaline Mob has been in existence as long as the cruise and has never once been on the boat. I'm not sure why that should change this year, simply because Russell is stating he's fully committed to his shitty project. I don't think they're even on a single wishlist
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Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

by cowboy71 » Wed May 10, 2017 5:09 pm

General Zod wrote:
Adrenaline Mob .....I don't think they're even on a single wishlist


I have tallied 5,088 individual band requests for 2018 in my spreadsheet thus far, and can confirm that there has not been a single request for Adrenaline Mob :P
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Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

by klons » Wed May 10, 2017 5:28 pm

cowboy71 wrote:
General Zod wrote:
Adrenaline Mob .....I don't think they're even on a single wishlist


I have tallied 5,088 individual band requests for 2018 in my spreadsheet thus far, and can confirm that there has not been a single request for Adrenaline Mob :P


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