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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by deathmetalpat » Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:09 pm

    I believe that the lack of December announcements is due to the fact nobody books in December. Every year the sold out cabin types barely change from October to December. Then in January cabins start selling again, winter starts to get to people and the people who book at the last minute see bands added and it pushes them to book.So don't expect much until the winter solstice is here.
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by cowboy71 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:39 pm

    PREVIOUS DECEMBERS
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    3rd Twilight of the Gods
    14th Dusk Machine
    24th Destruction, Malevolent Creation
    December 2011
    7th Pretty Maids
    10th Venom
    13th Exciter
    17th Annihilator
    21st Channel Zero
    25th Kataklysm
    December 2012
    18th Delain, Heidevolk
    20th 3 Inches of Blood
    21st Onslaught
    29th Sinister
    December 2013
    3rd Obituary
    24th Raven, Orphaned Land, Rising Storm
    28th Haggard, Pungent Stench, Izegrim, Vicious Rumors
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    **crickets chirping**
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by klons » Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:20 pm

    Random off-note: anybody else notice this got unpinned from the top of the forum a few days ago?
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by bodomdragon » Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:02 am

    klons wrote:Random off-note: anybody else notice this got unpinned from the top of the forum a few days ago?

    Nope, still pinned.
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by Mr.Kito » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:44 am

    cowboy71 wrote:PREVIOUS DECEMBERS
    December 2010
    3rd Twilight of the Gods
    14th Dusk Machine
    24th Destruction, Malevolent Creation
    December 2011
    7th Pretty Maids
    10th Venom
    13th Exciter
    17th Annihilator
    21st Channel Zero
    25th Kataklysm
    December 2012
    18th Delain, Heidevolk
    20th 3 Inches of Blood
    21st Onslaught
    29th Sinister
    December 2013
    3rd Obituary
    24th Raven, Orphaned Land, Rising Storm
    28th Haggard, Pungent Stench, Izegrim, Vicious Rumors



    So we usually get an early december announcement and another one around christmas.

    Maybe we´ll get a band this weekend :?
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by Dutchguy-Tim » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:44 am

    Mr.Kito wrote:
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    :bangers:


    and enjoy :pound:

    that being said.
    i would like a sinterklaas announcement :-)
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    by Lala » Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:33 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:So we usually get an early december announcement and another one around christmas.


    And 27 Bands on January 21st.....
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by FrenchMachoBoy » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:31 am

    here is an exclusive picture of ANDY :

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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by FrenchMachoBoy » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:13 pm

    The advent calendar is on ... wacken http://www.wacken.com/en/bands/bands-billing/
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by vikingbitch » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:49 pm

    Did anyone else hear that apparently Vulvatron from Gwar is going to be one of our pool girls?

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    Considering how often 70K likes to post about the pool girls rather than band announcements I'm surprised this hasn't become an official announcement. This being said, I'm sure this is enough to throw Gwar into the rumor mill but I can't imagine how it would work for the ship with blood well, every where lol.
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by Stained Class » Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:55 pm

    Yeah she was a pool girl already doing all those interviews before Gwar announced her as a singer ;)
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    by meshuggah » Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:11 pm

    I know that one of these times when I log in "New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!" will be replaced with a new subject line...but until then, :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by ShoreSlayer » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:11 am

    Finally figured it out!!

    The method to Andy's madness...

    By leaving multiple, long, drawn out stretches of nonannouncements throughout the year between cruises, he's effectively boring us to death while not onbroad. This way, by way of extreme contrast, the week of the cruise ends up feeling like the most exciting thing ever.

    Thus, we are doomed (blessed?) to learn nothing from history and simply repeat it ad infinitum for all time.

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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by FrenchMachoBoy » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:20 am

    ShoreSlayer wrote:Finally figured it out!!

    The method to Andy's madness...

    By leaving multiple, long, drawn out stretches on nonannouncements throughout the year between cruises, he's effectively boring us to death while not onbroad. This way, by way of extreme contrast, the week of the cruise ends up feeling like the most exciting thing ever.

    Thus, we are doomed (blessed?) to learn nothing from history and simply repeat it ad infinitum for all time.

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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by ShoreSlayer » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:58 am

    C'mon MachoBoy, lighten up a little ;)

    We're just over a month away with lots to keep us busy n pass the time between then n now. We're all gonna have a blast and the goofiness of February to January won't seem quite as painful once we're all thrashing out under Caribbean skies :shred: :headbanger: :beerwink:
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by gundiesalvo » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:44 pm

    If anyone gets REALLY frustrated by lack of announcements, then just get the ticket and wait for the date, chances are you'll be pleasantly surprised anyway. That may avoid you getting discouraged from going again based just on what happens when the cruise is NOT on, which doesn't really make sense since what you're paying for is the cruise experience.
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by Azazel101 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:36 pm

    FrenchMachoBoy wrote:
    ShoreSlayer wrote:Finally figured it out!!

    The method to Andy's madness...

    By leaving multiple, long, drawn out stretches on nonannouncements throughout the year between cruises, he's effectively boring us to death while not onbroad. This way, by way of extreme contrast, the week of the cruise ends up feeling like the most exciting thing ever.

    Thus, we are doomed (blessed?) to learn nothing from history and simply repeat it ad infinitum for all time.

    Clever Devil! :twisted:
    I've learned. In 2016 I will not be there.


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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by DragonLordJones » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:41 pm

    Azazel101 wrote:I would book 2016 now if I could afford it


    you'll book as soon as it's available, whether you can afford it or not :lol: :lol: :lol: because that's the way we roll. The only thing stopping you is death or something better comes along :cheers: :beerhorns: :givebeer:
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    by Azazel101 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:28 pm

    DragonLordJones wrote:
    Azazel101 wrote:I would book 2016 now if I could afford it


    you'll book as soon as it's available, whether you can afford it or not :lol: :lol: :lol: because that's the way we roll. The only thing stopping you is death or something better comes along :cheers: :beerhorns: :givebeer:

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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by DragonLordJones » Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:19 am

    Azazel101 wrote:
    DragonLordJones wrote:
    Azazel101 wrote:I would book 2016 now if I could afford it


    you'll book as soon as it's available, whether you can afford it or not :lol: :lol: :lol: because that's the way we roll. The only thing stopping you is death or something better comes along :cheers: :beerhorns: :givebeer:

    And What is better than 70K :shred:

    exactly :cheers: :beerhorns: :givebeer: :viking:
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    by FrenchMachoBoy » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:31 am

    This summer Samantha (which is very nice btw) gave me what I thought was a sun-lotion.
    It was lubricant.
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    by bodomdragon » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:41 am

    FrenchMachoBoy wrote:This summer Samantha (which is very nice btw) gave me what I thought was a sun-lotion.
    It was lubricant.

    I just hope that you didn't use lube as sun lotion. Or the other way around.
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    by FrenchMachoBoy » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:53 am

    Nope, it was full of unknown chemistry. I've just kept the empty pot.
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by Warphine » Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:16 pm

    I hope I get randomly seated with Alissa White-Gluz in the nice restaurant on the boat. Not because I think she's hot or a good vocalist but because she's a militant vegan and I would love the opportunity to eat a big juicy steak in front of her.
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by acidbasement » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:03 pm

    Warphine wrote:I hope I get randomly seated with Alissa White-Gluz in the nice restaurant on the boat. Not because I think she's hot or a good vocalist but because she's a militant vegan and I would love the opportunity to eat a big juicy steak in front of her.


    I know several militant vegans. They don't pick fights with every random stranger who happens to be eating meat at their table, in case that's what you're expecting.
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    by meshuggah » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:15 pm

    Warphine wrote:I hope I get randomly seated with Alissa White-Gluz in the nice restaurant on the boat. Not because I think she's hot or a good vocalist but because she's a militant vegan and I would love the opportunity to eat a big juicy steak in front of her.


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    by FrenchMachoBoy » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:44 pm

    Warphine wrote:I hope I get randomly seated with Alissa White-Gluz in the nice restaurant on the boat. Not because I think she's hot or a good vocalist but because she's a militant vegan and I would love the opportunity to eat a big juicy steak in front of her.
    That's such a proof of having brains.
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    by ShoreSlayer » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:49 pm

    acidbasement wrote:I know several militant vegans. They don't pick fights with every random stranger who happens to be eating meat at their table

    Well that's not very militant of them :shock:

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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by Warphine » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:57 pm

    meshuggah wrote:
    Warphine wrote:I hope I get randomly seated with Alissa White-Gluz in the nice restaurant on the boat. Not because I think she's hot or a good vocalist but because she's a militant vegan and I would love the opportunity to eat a big juicy steak in front of her.


    Everybody on the front rail can have bags of beef jerky to munch on during Arch Enemy's sets .


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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by mooyagi » Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:10 pm

    Warphine wrote:I hope I get randomly seated with Alissa White-Gluz in the nice restaurant on the boat. Not because I think she's hot or a good vocalist but because she's a militant vegan and I would love the opportunity to eat a big juicy steak in front of her.


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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by SaraMarie » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:45 pm

    Warphine wrote:I hope I get randomly seated with Alissa White-Gluz in the nice restaurant on the boat. Not because I think she's hot or a good vocalist but because she's a militant vegan and I would love the opportunity to eat a big juicy steak in front of her.


    Why? That sounds pretty dickish and unprovoked.
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by Warphine » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:21 pm

    SaraMarie wrote:
    Warphine wrote:I hope I get randomly seated with Alissa White-Gluz in the nice restaurant on the boat. Not because I think she's hot or a good vocalist but because she's a militant vegan and I would love the opportunity to eat a big juicy steak in front of her.


    Why? That sounds pretty dickish and unprovoked.


    I'd be a dick for eating a steak at a table with a known vegan? :lol:

    If anybody doesn't want to be seated next to any omnivores then they should go eat at the buffet where they can choose everyone that they sit with.
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    by Mr.Kito » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:41 pm

    ShoreSlayer wrote:
    acidbasement wrote:I know several militant vegans. They don't pick fights with every random stranger who happens to be eating meat at their table

    Well that's not very militant of them :shock:

    ;)



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    by Cardest » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:49 pm

    had the craziest, wildest idea today....clicked on the 70k page
    to see if there were any updates!
    What was I thinking?
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    by Cardest » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:55 pm

    Let's get the ball rolling again!


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    by bodomdragon » Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:28 am

    Warphine wrote:I hope I get randomly seated with Alissa White-Gluz in the nice restaurant on the boat. Not because I think she's hot or a good vocalist but because she's a militant vegan and I would love the opportunity to eat a big juicy steak in front of her.

    Beautiful! She should get some earphones chemically attached to your ears with Justin Bieber and hip hop music playing 24/7 as loud as it gets. Just because fuck tastes and beliefs. :)
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    by Warphine » Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:48 am

    BTW, it was clearly a joke. For those of you that know me knew I was kidding.

    Nothing wrong with being a Vegan. Vegans can be cool as shit. I know a few of them that I'm fond of.

    I started this because Alissa said some things in an interview about her veganism that rubbed me the wrong way. Specifically the part that sort of said that meat eaters are "part of the problem and not part of the solution".

    Oh and pumping hip hop music into my ears 24/7 would be welcomed, as long as it's good rap/hip hop (a la C-BO, Spice1, Run The Jewels, Big L, Tupac, Compton's Most Wanted, etc). Not Justin Bieber though, eww.
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by acidbasement » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:28 am

    Warphine wrote:I started this because Alissa said some things in an interview about her veganism that rubbed me the wrong way. Specifically the part that sort of said that meat eaters are "part of the problem and not part of the solution".


    Well, she's right. Before you jump all over me for saying that, understand that I'm a cattle farmer, and tomorrow I'm going to be slaughtering and butchering a cow from my family farm, which I am going to eat with great relish. I also love bacon, but in a guilty way, because conventional meat production is horrible from an environmental and ethical perspective for lots of different reasons.

    That said, it's very hypocritical for anyone, me included, to criticize other people's choices when we're all (including Alissa) going to be sailing on the polar bear destroyer (fuel economy ~ 12 feet to the gallon) in less than two months.

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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by Phoenix » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:38 am

    Since we're on the topic, technically the Hindus had a point. Cows produce more methane than we do, including all of our oil and gas activities. So really, if we stopped raising cows en masse to eat and just kept them around for milk, we'd really reduce a lot of the worst GHG around.

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    by Mr.Kito » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:49 am

    Well... let's just.. you know..

    carry on with the metal conversation?


    See what you did Andy? :bitch: if we had announcements, we wouldn't be talking about meat, vegans, polar bears and stuff...we would be talking about how cool the cruise is and how awesome the bands are :cry:

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