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Crown & Anchor

by biertroll » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:43 am

Is anyone higher than Gold Status and if you are, what sort of perks do you get onbroad?

(Like the buy 1 get 1 beer deal for Gold status)
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by elj4176 » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:53 am

I'm platinum status but I'm not sure of the perks. Not sure I even got the buy 1 beer get 1 beer last time. Have to make sure I get that this time.
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by slayergeek » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:56 am

biertroll wrote:Is anyone higher than Gold Status and if you are, what sort of perks do you get onbroad?

(Like the buy 1 get 1 beer deal for Gold status)



I am emerald status, but that doesn't mean much on this cruise. Here are the perks I am supposed to get

SeaPass Card recognition
Priority check-in
Private departure lounge with continental breakfast
Exclusive Trivia
Exclusive Top Tier Event
Robes for use onboard3
Signature lapel pin
Welcome Gift/Amenity including choice of beverage

The only one I would care about is the "Priority check-in" and for a normal cruise I definitely go to a MUCH shorter line. Last year this cruise did not have a priority line at all that I saw. Not too concerned about it, but you asked :)
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Re: Crown & Anchor

by biertroll » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:01 am

elj4176 wrote:I'm platinum status but I'm not sure of the perks. Not sure I even got the buy 1 beer get 1 beer last time. Have to make sure I get that this time.

You should have a piece of paper in your cabin that says what stuff we get, I think theres some spa discounts too. I mainly remember the buy 1 get 1 :lol: Plus your card should be a different color too.

slayergeek wrote:I am emerald status, but that doesn't mean much on this cruise. Here are the perks I am supposed to get

SeaPass Card recognition
Priority check-in
Private departure lounge with continental breakfast
Exclusive Trivia
Exclusive Top Tier Event
Robes for use onboard3
Signature lapel pin
Welcome Gift/Amenity including choice of beverage

The only one I would care about is the "Priority check-in" and for a normal cruise I definitely go to a MUCH shorter line. Last year this cruise did not have a priority line at all that I saw. Not too concerned about it, but you asked :)


Thank you!

This is what Gold's is:
Crown & Anchor Society Onbroad Offers
Priority check-in1
Private departure lounge with continental breakfast
Exclusive Trivia

I was mainly just seeing if there were any more free beers in the onbroad offers :lol:
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Re: Crown & Anchor

by Monmisreal » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:13 am

biertroll wrote:(Like the buy 1 get 1 beer deal for Gold status)


Best part about that was the first year on the new boat when they didn't exclude bombers. We had soooo many bottles of chimay at our table :beerbang:
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by elj4176 » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:22 am

Yeah my card was different. I don't usually pay attention to the extra stuff that brings. I think you get 1 point per day at sea or something like that. Might be Emerald with Slayergeek after this one. We jump around to different cruise lines so tough to rack up too many points on one of them.
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by bodomdragon » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:16 am

biertroll wrote:
elj4176 wrote:I'm platinum status but I'm not sure of the perks. Not sure I even got the buy 1 beer get 1 beer last time. Have to make sure I get that this time.

You should have a piece of paper in your cabin that says what stuff we get, I think theres some spa discounts too. I mainly remember the buy 1 get 1 :lol: Plus your card should be a different color too.

slayergeek wrote:I am emerald status, but that doesn't mean much on this cruise. Here are the perks I am supposed to get

SeaPass Card recognition
Priority check-in
Private departure lounge with continental breakfast
Exclusive Trivia
Exclusive Top Tier Event
Robes for use onboard3
Signature lapel pin
Welcome Gift/Amenity including choice of beverage

The only one I would care about is the "Priority check-in" and for a normal cruise I definitely go to a MUCH shorter line. Last year this cruise did not have a priority line at all that I saw. Not too concerned about it, but you asked :)


Thank you!

This is what Gold's is:
Crown & Anchor Society Onbroad Offers
Priority check-in1
Private departure lounge with continental breakfast
Exclusive Trivia

I was mainly just seeing if there were any more free beers in the onbroad offers :lol:


How do we get to enjoy these benefits? Should we go somewhere different on the port for the priority check-in? And at what time? how about the departure lounge, where should we go? Can I find information anywhere? This will be my fourth cruise and I've never heard of all this before.

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by elj4176 » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:36 am

I think most of that applies to regular cruises and no so much to the 70k cruise.

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by biertroll » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:26 am

elj4176 wrote:I think most of that applies to regular cruises and no so much to the 70k cruise.

http://www.royalcaribbean.com/cas/benefitsLoggedout.do

Yep. We'd all be eligible for the priority check in :lol:
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by deathmetalpat » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:13 pm

In 2013,in Miami being only a Gold cruiser I was able to use the shorter line.My Sea Pass had Gold on it and the lady pointed me over.This was before everyone started to join,now only thing we get is the drink coupon book.
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by mooyagi » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:30 pm

There is no priority check-in, at least there hasn't been since the last Miami cruise. I got to use the Gold line once. It was great. As for the "coupon book" benefits, they come preloaded on your sea pass and I believe they automatically give you the discount on the first beer you order. There should be a list of all the benefits in the cabin for you if you have Gold or higher status.

I can't find any info on a special departure lounge at the port or on the ship. The closest I can find is the Diamond Club on broad, which doesn't look like is available to Gold members.

There was also a special section in the balcony of the theater last time that was reserved for Crown and Anchor members but I don't think it is policed.

I'm getting bumped up to Platinum after this cruise, but it looks like all I'll get extra is a fancy robe in the stateroom. Robes only available upon request. :roll:
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by UltimoAviso » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:39 pm

does 70k count towards this? also do i need to add my membership number somewhere or how do i get credited for points (if 70k applies)? Every time i hit log in it takes me to customer support lol :roll:
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by slayergeek » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:45 pm

UltimoAviso wrote:does 70k count towards this? also do i need to add my membership number somewhere or how do i get credited for points (if 70k applies)? Every time i hit log in it takes me to customer support lol :roll:


70K cruises definitely count towards this.

Here is there enrollment page, you can retroactively add cruises you have been on.

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by mooyagi » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:56 pm

slayergeek wrote:
UltimoAviso wrote:does 70k count towards this? also do i need to add my membership number somewhere or how do i get credited for points (if 70k applies)? Every time i hit log in it takes me to customer support lol :roll:


70K cruises definitely count towards this.

Here is there enrollment page, you can retroactively add cruises you have been on.

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http://www.royalcaribbean.com/customers ... &faqId=972


To add to this, there is a line to put in your Crown and Anchor number when you do online check in for the cruise.
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by gnoff_the_creep » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:20 pm

Monmisreal wrote:
biertroll wrote:(Like the buy 1 get 1 beer deal for Gold status)


Best part about that was the first year on the new boat when they didn't exclude bombers. We had soooo many bottles of chimay at our table :beerbang:


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by yardleybates » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:08 pm

biertroll wrote:Is anyone higher than Gold Status and if you are, what sort of perks do you get onbroad?

(Like the buy 1 get 1 beer deal for Gold status)


I didn't see anything that mentioned the buy 1 get 1 beer deal but I'm so stoked if that's accurate!!!
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by mooyagi » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:08 pm

yardleybates wrote:
biertroll wrote:Is anyone higher than Gold Status and if you are, what sort of perks do you get onbroad?

(Like the buy 1 get 1 beer deal for Gold status)


I didn't see anything that mentioned the buy 1 get 1 beer deal but I'm so stoked if that's accurate!!!


The buy 1 get 1 is only good for one purchase. There's also a few other perks. Here's the list. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1726392

- Beverage Discount (purchase any wine, beer or soda by the glass and get a second one free).
- Glass of Wine, Beer or Soda Discount - receive a 10% Discount.
- Premium Brand Coffee - 25% discount on any coffee beverage.
- Johnny Rockets - 2 for 1 milkshake
- Photo Discount - Buy 1 photo and receive a 50% discount on a second photo.
- Internet Discount - $5.00 USD credit or 10% off any internet package purchase (whichever amount is greater).
- 1 Free Casino "Spin to Win" Coupon
- 1 Casino Credit $5.00 USD Match Play Casino Certificate
- Bingo Credit - Purchase any bingo package and receive one free Single Jackpot Bingo Card.
- Gift Shop Discount - Spend $25.00 USD or more on RCI logo and receive a 10% discount.
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- Fine Jewelry Discount - Spend $1000 USD on Fine Jewelry and receive a 10% discount.
- Airbrushed Temporary Tattoos - purchase any size temporary airbrush tattoo and receive a free gold color upgrade.....a $2.00 USD Savings.
- Pets At Sea Discount - 10% off your Pets at Sea Package which includes a pet and outfit.
- RCI Cookbook Discount - 25% off the purchase of RCI Savor Cookbook.
- SPA Credit - 10% off any one spa or salon service.
- Britto Collectible - 10% off a Britto Tubed Poster
- C&A Members enjoy 15% off C&A Bedding Collection Purchase ( Visit www.RoyalCaribbeanBeddingCollection.com PROMO CODE: SOCIETY)

They used to give you a physical coupon book but now all the deals are preloaded onto your card. Just inform whoever runs your card that you'd like to use your discount, though I think most of them just kick in automatically with a qualifying purchase.
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by yardleybates » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:32 pm

Awesome thanks man! So it's part of a coupon booklet sort of thing, not an automatic thing with the marking on your sea pass card.

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The buy 1 get 1 is only good for one purchase. There's also a few other perks. Here's the list. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1726392

- Beverage Discount (purchase any wine, beer or soda by the glass and get a second one free).
- Glass of Wine, Beer or Soda Discount - receive a 10% Discount.
- Premium Brand Coffee - 25% discount on any coffee beverage.
- Johnny Rockets - 2 for 1 milkshake
- Photo Discount - Buy 1 photo and receive a 50% discount on a second photo.
- Internet Discount - $5.00 USD credit or 10% off any internet package purchase (whichever amount is greater).
- 1 Free Casino "Spin to Win" Coupon
- 1 Casino Credit $5.00 USD Match Play Casino Certificate
- Bingo Credit - Purchase any bingo package and receive one free Single Jackpot Bingo Card.
- Gift Shop Discount - Spend $25.00 USD or more on RCI logo and receive a 10% discount.
- Art Auctions - 10% off Custom Framing on any Art on Royal Purchase
- Fine Jewelry Discount - Spend $1000 USD on Fine Jewelry and receive a 10% discount.
- Airbrushed Temporary Tattoos - purchase any size temporary airbrush tattoo and receive a free gold color upgrade.....a $2.00 USD Savings.
- Pets At Sea Discount - 10% off your Pets at Sea Package which includes a pet and outfit.
- RCI Cookbook Discount - 25% off the purchase of RCI Savor Cookbook.
- SPA Credit - 10% off any one spa or salon service.
- Britto Collectible - 10% off a Britto Tubed Poster
- C&A Members enjoy 15% off C&A Bedding Collection Purchase ( Visit http://www.RoyalCaribbeanBeddingCollection.com PROMO CODE: SOCIETY)

They used to give you a physical coupon book but now all the deals are preloaded onto your card. Just inform whoever runs your card that you'd like to use your discount, though I think most of them just kick in automatically with a qualifying purchase.
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by biertroll » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:32 pm

Thanks mooyagi!
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by Tiki108 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:14 am

Pretty much what everyone else said. There are perks, but most don't apply to this cruise. That said, the days you sail do count towards your account though. This also reminds me that I need to call them cause I sailed on Majesty last month and they didn't increase my points yet...
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by mooyagi » Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:01 pm

So I wonder why Royal Caribbean decided to ignore Crown and Anchor this time. :roll:
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by meshuggah » Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:14 pm

mooyagi wrote:So I wonder why Royal Caribbean decided to ignore Crown and Anchor this time. :roll:


We asked customer service about it. They said that charters never honor it. I said that that's not true, the past 2 years since we became gold, we've received the perks. Also the drink prices went up. UMC keeps getting better, RC keeps getting worse.
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by deathmetalpat » Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:22 pm

meshuggah wrote:
mooyagi wrote:So I wonder why Royal Caribbean decided to ignore Crown and Anchor this time. :roll:


We asked customer service about it. They said that charters never honor it. I said that that's not true, the past 2 years since we became gold, we've received the perks. Also the drink prices went up. UMC keeps getting better, RC keeps getting worse.

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by DrinkMoxie » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:04 pm

Encountered that at Johnny Rockets for the bogo milkshake, I said, "not true, I used this last time I was on 70k" and they honored it... Pretty shitty way to nickel & dime us
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by Monmisreal » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:50 pm

meshuggah wrote: Also the drink prices went up. UMC keeps getting better, RC keeps getting worse.


I noticed that too. Another thing that kind of annoyed me was the fact that if you ordered a guiness you'd get 1 of 3 different prices. When I finally started to pay attention as to why its because the bartender just clicked on whatever one they felt. I saw maybe 2 foreign extra stouts and no bottles, but I was definitely charged for both when I ordered the can.

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by deathmetalpat » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:05 pm

So after calling My Cruise Points they called back today and are giving me a $250 credit directly to my RC CC.And one of my beers disappeared,so I guess that was a gold status thing.
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Re: Crown & Anchor

by alex_canada » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:46 pm

For next cruise I'll get the bathrobe perk. I hereby claim dibs on the exclusive creation and use of a patch robe, since the other guy beat me to the lifejacket.
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Re: Crown & Anchor

by Pellaz » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:08 pm

What's the qualification for getting Gold status in C&A? Is it a certain number of nights at sea?
I had a gold Seapass this year, and my buddy Rafael had, uh, something else. (He'd been on one 70K before.)
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Re: Crown & Anchor

by DragonLordJones » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:44 pm

Pellaz wrote:What's the qualification for getting Gold status in C&A? Is it a certain number of nights at sea?
I had a gold Seapass this year, and my buddy Rafael had, uh, something else. (He'd been on one 70K before.)


each night aboard earns 1 point .... after so many points you gain gold .... onward toward platinum and so forth it is a RC thing not UMC :cheers:
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Re: Crown & Anchor

by mbob » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:47 pm

The gold cards were for cruisers who have been on 3+ 70K cruises including 2017. This was my 3rd year and I had a gold card.

Royal Caribbean does not give you a gold card for regular cruises until you become platinum. While you are a gold you get the grey card with Gold written on it.


Pellaz wrote:What's the qualification for getting Gold status in C&A? Is it a certain number of nights at sea?
I had a gold Seapass this year, and my buddy Rafael had, uh, something else. (He'd been on one 70K before.)
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Re: Crown & Anchor

by Pellaz » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:31 pm

mbob wrote:The gold cards were for cruisers who have been on 3+ 70K cruises including 2017. This was my 3rd year and I had a gold card.

Royal Caribbean does not give you a gold card for regular cruises until you become platinum. While you are a gold you get the grey card with Gold written on it.


Huh. That's confusing. But this was my third 70K (and my fourth RC cruise) so....yay, Gold card.
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Re: Crown & Anchor

by Downvod » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:30 pm

So to be clear, will I receive any perks for going on my third cruise next year, or no?
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Re: Crown & Anchor

by meshuggah » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:41 pm

Downvod wrote:So to be clear, will I receive any perks for going on my third cruise next year, or no?


If RC's policy is the same as it was this year, you will not get any perks.
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Re: Crown & Anchor

by deathmetalpat » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:52 pm

Downvod wrote:So to be clear, will I receive any perks for going on my third cruise next year, or no?

There wasn't anything in own room or details about any offers.As I remember from earlier cruises,BOGO Wine or beer ,BOGO stuff at Johnny Rockets and something at the coffee shop (along with other stuff I never used).The only reason I got a free beer is someone looked at my charges because of a problem with cruise credit,they just took it off ,I said nothing about it.
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