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Re: How fast will 2018 sell out?

by deathmetalpat » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:16 am

Actually the simplest thing to do is raise prices ,that is how you deal with demand/supply imbalance.
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Re: How fast will 2018 sell out?

by cowboy71 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:41 pm

Must be a bit of reshuffling going on, cancelled bookings etc.

D3 Doubles have opened up again.
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Re: How fast will 2018 sell out?

by cowboy71 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:34 pm

Balcony Suite JS Doubles also open again.
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Re: How fast will 2018 sell out?

by cowboy71 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:36 pm

D3 and JS open again. Can only be a handful of cabins in each at most.

Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
Interior N / 73 /
Interior M / 128 /
Interior L / 141 /
Interior K / 3 / 1 / 177
Promenade PR / 168 /
Family Interior FI / / / / / / 2 /
Promenade Family FP / / / / / /4 /
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Ocean View I / 66 / / /
Ocean View H / 42 / / /
Ocean View G / ? / ? / 100 /
Large Ocean View F / 14 / 2 / ? /
Family Ocean View FO / / / ? / ? / 10 /
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Deluxe Balcony E3 / 185 /
Deluxe Balcony E2 / 52 /
Deluxe Balcony E1 / ? / 83 / 8 /
Superior Balcony D3 / 191***** /
Superior Balcony D2 / 102 /
Superior Balcony D1 / ? / ? / 89 /
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Junior Suite JS / 56***** / ? / 22 /
Grand Suite GS / ? / ? / 22 /
Royal Family Suite FS / / / ? / ? / ? / ? / 4 /
Owner Suite OS / ? / ? / 8 /

Total Cabins: 1753
Number of Cabins in Sold Out Categories: 1506
***** - marked as sold out previously, so only a few available at most

Actual official cabin count from 70K press sheet:
Total number of cabins = 1817
Ocean View: 1084 (842 with balconies) / Interior: 733 (172 with promenade view)
out of those there are 855 with third/fourth berths and 32 are wheelchair accessible
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Re: How fast will 2018 sell out?

by Sgt. B » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:32 am

It looks like private cabins are gone again. Single male rooms are also gone.
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Re: How fast will 2018 sell out?

by Dumonster » Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:58 am

All private cabin options for the Grand Suite just opened up.
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by bodomdragon » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:01 am

Dumonster wrote:All private cabin options for the Grand Suite just opened up.

Maybe they just decided to hire one less headliner? :D
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Re: How fast will 2018 sell out?

by deathmetalpat » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:46 pm

Venezuela and Puerto Rico both where listed as having cruisers last year.Both now have major issues,Puerto Rico is devastated and people might not be even able to contact UMC or might have to cancel.Venezuela (if you actually live in this country but plan a cruise to America I question your sanity) has a weird upcoming travel ban ,if government has collapsed how can they give the information needed for travel to USA.
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Re: How fast will 2018 sell out?

by Pellaz » Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:14 pm

Dumonster wrote:All private cabin options for the Grand Suite just opened up.


Yep, if any Grand Suite is available, then all occupancy options would be available since any GS can accommodate 2, 3 or 4 people.
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Re: How fast will 2018 sell out?

by mbob » Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:20 am

Unless the lifeboat assignment for that cabin is almost full. There could be 3 Grand Suites available but only 2 spots in the lifeboat for those 3 cabins combined therefore only 1 Grand Suite Double occupancy would show up.

Pellaz wrote:
Dumonster wrote:All private cabin options for the Grand Suite just opened up.


Yep, if any Grand Suite is available, then all occupancy options would be available since any GS can accommodate 2, 3 or 4 people.
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Re: How fast will 2018 sell out?

by Tristess » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:08 am

Quick question: everything looks completely sold out :(
If there are any cancellations, would these become available on the website?

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Re: How fast will 2018 sell out?

by TPH » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:33 am

Hi there! :beerbang:

I'd say your best bet is to be really quick when someone is going to post in the "Recruit a cabin mate" section, now.
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Re: How fast will 2018 sell out?

by JoAnnamayhem » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:48 am

Quick question: everything looks completely sold out :(
If there are any cancellations, would these become available on the website?

Cheers :)


It looks like there are single female passenger spots available. Might be your best bet.
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Re: How fast will 2018 sell out?

by Tristess » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:04 am

Cheers - I'm guessing a double cabin for two would be pretty much impossible to get now? :(
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Re: How fast will 2018 sell out?

by DrinkMoxie » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:21 am

Tristess wrote:Cheers - I'm guessing a double cabin for two would be pretty much impossible to get now? :(

People sell their cabins every year. Just keep your eyes peeled.
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Re: How fast will 2018 sell out?

by deathmetalpat » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:21 pm

It appears that all the cabins are sold out and now there is a waiting list http://70000tons.com/waitist/ .So this is a good idea and actually sets a secure market for transferring cabins.Maybe once the fees increase for cancellations there can be a way to sell your reservation or UMC will waive everything but say $100 for a cabin they have a definite buyer for.
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Re: How fast will 2018 sell out?

by DragonLordJones » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:37 pm

First time I've seen all the cabins marked as sold in September - way to go UMC - Now bring on the announcements :beerhorns: :givebeer: :cheers:
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Re: How fast will 2018 sell out?

by Godflesh » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:14 am

DragonLordJones wrote:First time I've seen all the cabins marked as sold in September - way to go UMC - Now bring on the announcements :beerhorns: :givebeer: :cheers:

The next announcement will be that there are no additional bands, all the venues except the pool deck stage have been converted to 24h karaoke :mrgreen: That's crowdsourcing.
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