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How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?
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    How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

    by cowboy71 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:20 am

    Just copying the 2019 figures across for now, but it looks like there have been QUITE a few changes in cabin classes, and even some additions.

    For example, there seem to be a lot more interior cabins on deck 2 compared to 2019.


    Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
    Standard Interior 6V / 86 /
    Standard Interior 4V / 227 /
    Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 151 /
    Standard Interior 2V / 81 /
    Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 26 /
    Promenade View 1T / 168 /
    Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Ocean View 8N / 36 / / /
    Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 35 /
    Ocean View 2N / 80 /
    Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 67 /
    Spacious Ocean 4M / 15 /
    Spacious Ocean 1M / ?? / ?? / 7 /
    Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 10 /
    Spacious Pano 1L / 6 / ?? / 33 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Standard Balcony 6D / 12 /
    Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 22 /
    Standard Balcony 2D / 221 /
    Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / 63 / 7 /
    Spacious Balcony 6B / 113 /
    Spacious Balcony 4B / 108 /
    Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / ?? / 92 /
    Spacious Balcony 2B / 30 /
    Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / ?? / 48 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 56 /
    Balcony Suite J4 / 31 /
    Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
    Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ??? / ?? / ?? / ??? / 6 /
    Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

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    Total Cabins, according to cruisedeckplans website: 1918
    Total Cabins in sold out categories: 0
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    Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

    by SavaRon » Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:27 am

    It won't sell out.
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    Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

    by PotatoPotahto » Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:05 am

    Yeah I'm going with it won't. Too much bullshit this year.
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    Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

    by cegr80 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:09 am

    No sell out, but it will be close
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    Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

    by spooky » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:15 pm

    ...I predict more north americans this round due to timing and price increase?
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    Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

    by Amalu » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:00 am

    It will sell out 48 hours after public sales start.
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    Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

    by Cardest » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:54 am

    Maybe.
    I believe it might struggle to sell out for a while.
    With so many sailors quitting in anger.
    Airfares too high and complete lack of news.

    Suddenly, things will pick up around mid November or so, when we get a few 1st timer bands.
    Who knows!


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    Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

    by Downvod » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:20 am

    Cardest wrote:
    Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:54 am
    Maybe.
    I believe it might struggle to sell out for a while.
    With so many sailors quitting in anger.
    Airfares too high and complete lack of news.

    Suddenly, things will pick up around mid November or so, when we get a few 1st timer bands.
    Who knows!
    I’ve seen a lot more people desperate for booking codes than people quitting in anger. I don’t think they are going to have an issue selling out.
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    Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

    by Gratch » Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:20 am

    Did last year sell out? I remember seeing the "SOLD OUT" announcement in previous years, but don't recall it last year.

    It's entirely possible I just wasn't paying attention though.
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    Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

    by Phoenix » Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:26 am

    Gratch wrote:
    Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:20 am
    Did last year sell out? I remember seeing the "SOLD OUT" announcement in previous years, but don't recall it last year.

    It's entirely possible I just wasn't paying attention though.
    The wait list happened immediately after public sales opened. "Sold out" just means it's impossible to buy tickets or change hands anymore.
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    Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

    by Downvod » Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:19 am

    Phoenix wrote:
    Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:26 am
    Gratch wrote:
    Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:20 am
    Did last year sell out? I remember seeing the "SOLD OUT" announcement in previous years, but don't recall it last year.

    It's entirely possible I just wasn't paying attention though.
    The wait list happened immediately after public sales opened. "Sold out" just means it's impossible to buy tickets or change hands anymore.
    Correct. 70k can really mark it sold out whenever they choose. The previous 2 years have had waiting lists, but don't forget 2017 and earlier. Available (and very expensive) cabins would seemingly disappear in the final days before the cruise and it would be suddenly 'sold out.' Even if we don't get a waiting list this year, it's bound to get that sold out tag posted sooner or later.
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    Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

    by Tiki108 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:00 am

    I don’t think it’ll actually sell out, but I think a week after public sales start they’ll make the “sold out” post.
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      Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

      by Iconix » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:27 am

      Downvod wrote:
      Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:19 am
      Phoenix wrote:
      Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:26 am
      Gratch wrote:
      Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:20 am
      Did last year sell out? I remember seeing the "SOLD OUT" announcement in previous years, but don't recall it last year.

      It's entirely possible I just wasn't paying attention though.
      The wait list happened immediately after public sales opened. "Sold out" just means it's impossible to buy tickets or change hands anymore.
      Correct. 70k can really mark it sold out whenever they choose. The previous 2 years have had waiting lists, but don't forget 2017 and earlier. Available (and very expensive) cabins would seemingly disappear in the final days before the cruise and it would be suddenly 'sold out.' Even if we don't get a waiting list this year, it's bound to get that sold out tag posted sooner or later.
      I bet this is from them filling some of the expensive rooms with people on single tickets. An empty room is worse than one where you don't get full price
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      Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

      by Fulorian » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:42 am

      Iconix wrote:
      Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:27 am
      Downvod wrote:
      Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:19 am
      Phoenix wrote:
      Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:26 am


      The wait list happened immediately after public sales opened. "Sold out" just means it's impossible to buy tickets or change hands anymore.
      Correct. 70k can really mark it sold out whenever they choose. The previous 2 years have had waiting lists, but don't forget 2017 and earlier. Available (and very expensive) cabins would seemingly disappear in the final days before the cruise and it would be suddenly 'sold out.' Even if we don't get a waiting list this year, it's bound to get that sold out tag posted sooner or later.
      I bet this is from them filling some of the expensive rooms with people on single tickets. An empty room is worse than one where you don't get full price
      That's not how it works - they're trying to sell 3,000 tickets for the highest amount of revenue possible. An empty room means absolutely nothing - the capacity of the boat is based on lifeboats, not rooms available for sale. 4 people in a quad with 2 empty suites is the same as 2 people each in 2 suites that they have been upgraded to, in terms of revenue and boat capacity, so there really isn't any incentive to do that. The total people capacity of the rooms, in quad-ticket layouts, is dramatically higher than the maximum passenger capacity of the boat.

      Keep in mind, most vacation cruises are retirees or small families, not 4+ random people bunching up to party all weekend, and they build their ships with that audience in mind. I think you'd probably be surprised how many rooms are in fact empty (or used for beer storage) during 70k.
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      Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

      by Phoenix » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:29 am

      Yeah, there's the truth - empty rooms are better, it's where they keep the extra alcohol.
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      Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

      by Godflesh » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:16 pm

      Tiki108 wrote:
      Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:00 am
      I don’t think it’ll actually sell out, but I think a week after public sales start they’ll make the “sold out” post.
      There hasn't been a "sold out" post since 2017.
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      Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

      by Pellaz » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:45 pm

      Tiki108 wrote:
      Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:00 am
      I don’t think it’ll actually sell out, but I think a week after public sales start they’ll make the “sold out” post.
      Concur.
      Godflesh wrote:
      Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:16 pm
      There hasn't been a "sold out" post since 2017.
      I'd accept a "waiting list only" post from UMC as a de facto "sold out" post. It basically means the same thing, except that it really IS sold out. :lol:
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      Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

      by Tiki108 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:50 pm

      Pellaz wrote:
      Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:45 pm
      Tiki108 wrote:
      Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:00 am
      I don’t think it’ll actually sell out, but I think a week after public sales start they’ll make the “sold out” post.
      Concur.
      Godflesh wrote:
      Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:16 pm
      There hasn't been a "sold out" post since 2017.
      I'd accept a "waiting list only" post from UMC as a de facto "sold out" post. It basically means the same thing, except that it really IS sold out. :lol:
      Yeah, I don’t know if there was an actual post made, but I still have a message from them about being put on the waitlist for the 2019 cruise. I wasn’t actually going, but more curious if it sold out.
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by Fulorian » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:51 pm

        I don't think it's a question so much of 'Sold out', in that there are zero tickets/cabins available - because we know they will do some last-minute juggling to get to that threshold - the real question is, at what point are all the desirable cabins/configurations completely sold out for private cabin sales? That is to say, all balcony/ocean view/interior categories where the listed ticket price is under $1,800 are gone.

        From my memory, the happened within about 24 hours of public sales in 2016, somewhere between silver and public sales in 2017, pretty much the instant that silver sales opened in 2018, and about a week after public sales in 2019. That is what I judge the practical 'sold out' by - not an announcement or the closing of all categories.
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by Amalu » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:30 am

        Might be time to push this thread a bit. I'm pretty sure some categories won't be available any longer tomorrow.
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by cowboy71 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:48 am

        Amalu wrote:
        Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:30 am
        Might be time to push this thread a bit. I'm pretty sure some categories won't be available any longer tomorrow.
        Agreed - not surprisingly nothing sold out yet :P Probably only 25-30 quality as black this year, and there has been a couple that have said they are not returning.

        But yes, by this time tomorrow, even after the shit-show this has started out as, there will be a lot of categories sold out :)
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by DarkMacek » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:54 am

        I tried to book on my lunch break but the server couldn't handle the response. So, I'm guessing that we have a bit of a strong first-wave.
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by deathmetalpat » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:03 am

        There I a lot of sold outs already,cheaper double interiors which use to be the first to go are still available.
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by Phoenix » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:20 am

        Best to wait until the dust settles. My friend managed to catch a cheap cabin between refreshes. I'd say we can start putting figures out tonight.
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by deathmetalpat » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:23 am

        Phoenix wrote:
        Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:20 am
        Best to wait until the dust settles. My friend managed to catch a cheap cabin between refreshes. I'd say we can start putting figures out tonight.
        Same thing happened last couple of years ,I think they are releasing cabins like concerts release tickets.Not every cabin is available for sale in the beginning.
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by Pellaz » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:23 am

        deathmetalpat wrote:
        Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:23 am
        Phoenix wrote:
        Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:20 am
        Best to wait until the dust settles. My friend managed to catch a cheap cabin between refreshes. I'd say we can start putting figures out tonight.
        Same thing happened last couple of years ,I think they are releasing cabins like concerts release tickets.Not every cabin is available for sale in the beginning.
        Or, people are running multiple browser windows trying to book different cabins, and the "reserved for 20 minutes" cabins become available again when the time expires.
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by mindgrind » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:50 am

        well i was in at 12:12 and all sextuple rooms where gone. (didn't realize there where so many other sextuple groups out there) so i swear if sextuple rooms come out on silver booking I'll loose my shit, so i had to book a quad, and my roommates will have to get a double on silver, and i have been on hold on the phone now for 1HR39 min
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by torpedo20 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:20 pm

        Wow, that was impressive!
        Despite of all the whining and bitching all the cheap cabins are gone :pound:
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by Jephi » Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:47 pm

        Took me 45 minutes to get a booking request in. It's been a while, but I don't remember ever having that much trouble before.
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by Amalu » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:25 pm

        Wow, that went down much quicker then expected. Holy moly!

        I thought me and my wife would be on the safe side waiting for Silver Sales this, but now I'm actually a bit scared that that won't be enough. That's also why I've opened up a thread in the "Recruit a Cabin Mate" Subforum. I think I will need to try every option here.

        So it basically shows that all the bitching before hand had very little effect on sales. If announcing and booking this late still works out perfectly for UMC, why should they ever change anything?
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by cegr80 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:52 pm

        This was my very first year booking as a gold survivor, oh the adrenaline to get that "cheap" cabin was flowing!
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by Phoenix » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:24 pm

        Amalu wrote:
        Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:25 pm
        So it basically shows that all the bitching before hand had very little effect on sales. If announcing and booking this late still works out perfectly for UMC, why should they ever change anything?
        Yup, this. I knew it, too. That's why I feel less bad about bowing out.
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by cowboy71 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:06 pm

        WILL NEED TO REVISIT THE DECK PLAN. CHANGES FROM 2019:
        6B Double (113) no longer exists - gonna assume for now they have all became 4Bs



        Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
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        Standard Interior 4V / 227 /
        Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 151 /
        Standard Interior 2V / 81 /
        Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 26 /
        Promenade View 1T / 168 /
        Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
        Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /
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        Ocean View 8N / 36 / / /
        Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 35 /
        Ocean View 2N / 80 /
        Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 67 /
        Spacious Ocean 4M / 15 /
        Spacious Ocean 1M / ?? / ?? / 7 /
        Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 10 /
        Spacious Pano 1L / 6 / ?? / 33 /
        --------------------------------------------------------
        Standard Balcony 6D / 12 /
        Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 22 /
        Standard Balcony 2D / 221 /
        Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / 63 / 7 /
        Spacious Balcony 4B / 221 /
        Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / ?? / 92 /
        Spacious Balcony 2B / 30 /
        Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / ?? / 48 /
        --------------------------------------------------------
        Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
        Balcony Suite J4 / 31 /
        Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 56 /
        Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
        Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ??? / ?? / ?? / ??? / 6 /
        Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by cowboy71 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:07 pm

        At this same point last year the figure in sold outs was 349.

        So, sales appear to be SLIGHTLY quicker this year.
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by mindgrind » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:50 pm

        mindgrind wrote:
        Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:50 am
        well i was in at 12:12 and all sextuple rooms where gone. (didn't realize there where so many other sextuple groups out there) so i swear if sextuple rooms come out on silver booking I'll loose my shit, so i had to book a quad, and my roommates will have to get a double on silver, and i have been on hold on the phone now for 1HR39 min
        update- been on hold for 5hrs37 min guess I'm gonna hang up now...how cruel....
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by cowboy71 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:54 pm

        mindgrind wrote:
        Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:50 pm
        mindgrind wrote:
        Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:50 am
        well i was in at 12:12 and all sextuple rooms where gone. (didn't realize there where so many other sextuple groups out there) so i swear if sextuple rooms come out on silver booking I'll loose my shit, so i had to book a quad, and my roommates will have to get a double on silver, and i have been on hold on the phone now for 1HR39 min
        update- been on hold for 5hrs37 min guess I'm gonna hang up now...how cruel....
        Ouch. A few times last night with all the crashing etc, I would get in and the cabin I was after was 'gone' (I was after a specific triple that there are only a few of).

        But then, other times it would be available. I think that is because it was getting reserved but the booking was timing out.

        Was so lucky after about 25-30 minutes that I got the ability to 'lock in' the cabin type I was after, and it went through.

        REALLY shitty process. Not like they didn't know this would happen!!
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by mindgrind » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:51 pm

        I just did another hour after hanging up that's 6 and 1/2 hrs with no answer WTF..
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by Cardest » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:00 pm

        I was through in under 15 minutes!
        I didn't use my phone.
        Already confirmed and cabin assigned for deck 8.
        Paid too!
        While the exchange rate is holding steady. Phewww....
        Got the cabin we wanted too.


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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by Pellaz » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:22 pm

        mindgrind wrote:
        Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:51 pm
        I just did another hour after hanging up that's 6 and 1/2 hrs with no answer WTF..
        Absolutely email them at info@70000tons.com instead. They are more responsive to emails:

        At some point overnight I lost access to my Comcast email account (their authorization server is fucked up, at least for ME). I emailed 70K this morning a little before 11 am ET, and after confirming my D.O.B. with them, they were able to re-send my booking email to my Gmail account...at 11:50 AM ET. Whew!
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        Re: How Fast Will 2020 Sell Out?

        by cowboy71 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:36 pm

        8N sold out - 36 of those
        1D quad sold out - 7 of those

        WILL NEED TO REVISIT THE DECK PLAN. CHANGES FROM 2019:
        6B Double (113) no longer exists - gonna assume for now they have all became 4Bs



        Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
        Standard Interior 6V / 86 /
        Standard Interior 4V / 227 /
        Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 151 /
        Standard Interior 2V / 81 /
        Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 26 /
        Promenade View 1T / 168 /
        Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
        Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /
        --------------------------------------------------------
        Ocean View 8N / 36 / / /
        Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 35 /
        Ocean View 2N / 80 /
        Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 67 /
        Spacious Ocean 4M / 15 /
        Spacious Ocean 1M / ?? / ?? / 7 /
        Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 10 /
        Spacious Pano 1L / 6 / ?? / 33 /
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        Standard Balcony 6D / 12 /
        Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 22 /
        Standard Balcony 2D / 221 /
        Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / 63 / 7 /
        Spacious Balcony 4B / 221 /
        Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / ?? / 92 /
        Spacious Balcony 2B / 30 /
        Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / ?? / 48 /
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        Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
        Balcony Suite J4 / 31 /
        Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 56 /
        Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
        Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ??? / ?? / ?? / ??? / 6 /
        Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

        Total Cabins, by my count: 1877
        Total Cabins, according to cruisedeckplans website: 1918
        Total Cabins in sold out categories: 461
        Upcoming Gigs:
        **crickets chirping**
        2021 Wishlist
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