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    How fast will 2023 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:05 pm

    Not sure how accurate these are anymore. Will try and analyse the current ship layout and confirm

    Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
    Standard Interior 6V / 86 /
    Standard Interior 4V / 227 /
    Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 151 /
    Standard Interior 2V / 81 /
    Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 26 /
    Promenade View 1T / 168 /
    Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Ocean View 8N / 36 / / /
    Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 35 /
    Ocean View 2N / 80 /
    Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 67 /
    Spacious Ocean 4M / 15 /
    Spacious Ocean 1M / ?? / ?? / 7 /
    Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 10 /
    Spacious Pano 1L / 6 / ?? / 33 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Standard Balcony 6D / 12 /
    Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 22 /
    Standard Balcony 2D / 221 /
    Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / 63 / 7 /
    Spacious Balcony 4B / 221 /
    Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / ?? / 92 /
    Spacious Balcony 2B / 30 /
    Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / ?? / 48 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Balcony Suite J4 / 31 /
    Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 56 /
    Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
    Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ??? / ?? / ?? / ??? / 6 /
    Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

    Total Cabins, by my count: 1877
    Total Cabins, according to cruisedeckplans website: 1918
    Total Cabins in sold out categories:
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    Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

    by Kvltraven » Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:12 pm

    I hope it doesn’t sell out fast.

    I’m a veteran and I recently reconnected with a buddy of mine I served with. We went through some real bad shit back then and we’re trying to go on this trip together. I’m hoping we can get the room we wanted.
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    Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:08 pm

    Analysed as best I can. This is what appears to be the numbers for 2023

    Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
    Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
    Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
    Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
    Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
    Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
    Promenade View 2T / 168 /
    Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

    --------------------------------------------------------
    Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
    Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
    Ocean View 2N / 69 /
    Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
    Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
    Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
    Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
    Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
    Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
    Standard Balcony 2D / 252 /
    Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /

    Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
    Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
    Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
    Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
    Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
    Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
    Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ??? / ?? / ?? / ??? / 4 /
    Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /



    Most interesting finding when looking through it all was that on deck 3 there are 32 cabins of type 2V. Yet these are not available to book. Guessing they are reserved for workers/bands/booze
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    Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

    by Pellaz » Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:06 am

    cowboy71 wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:08 pm Most interesting finding when looking through it all was that on deck 3 there are 32 cabins of type 2V. Yet these are not available to book. Guessing they are reserved for workers/bands/booze
    I'm not gonna ask how you know what is and what isn't available to book. :twisted:

    You are probably correct that these are reserved for 70K crew. I know there was a family interior down the hallway from us when we were on or around Deck 3 that was occupied by festival crew. Our steward kindly gave us a look inside on the last morning.
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    Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

    by toby » Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:07 am

    Looks like 4V on 2 and 3 is already sold out.
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    Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

    by toby » Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:24 am

    1R on 2 also sold out.
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    Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:51 pm

    Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
    Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
    Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
    Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
    Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
    Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
    Promenade View 2T / 168 /
    Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

    --------------------------------------------------------
    Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
    Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
    Ocean View 2N / 69 /
    Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
    Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
    Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
    Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
    Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
    Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
    Standard Balcony 2D / 252 /
    Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /

    Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
    Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
    Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
    Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
    Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
    Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
    Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ??? / ?? / ?? / ??? / 4 /
    Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

    Number of cabins in sold out categories: 286
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    Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

    by toby » Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:24 am

    toby wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:24 am 1R on 2 also sold out.
    Guess it was a glitch.
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    Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

    by Tiki108 » Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:13 pm

    I feel like within a week or two of all public sales it'll get the sold out stamp.
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by Downvod » Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:00 pm

      Tiki108 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:13 pm I feel like within a week or two of all public sales it'll get the sold out stamp.
      Nah, it’s always a few days before we sail.
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by cowboy71 » Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:17 pm

      Tiki108 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:13 pm I feel like within a week or two of all public sales it'll get the sold out stamp.
      I dont see it moving that quick. I think there will definitely be more opportunity for newcomers this year, but with everything so late I just dont see, especially non-US cruisers, booking.

      Because, newbies will not have risked booking flights or accommodation yet without a cabin confirmed. And if you look at flights now they are REALLY expensive.

      So I think the 'sold out' sign will go up in the final 3 days, with it being anyones guess as to whether it truly IS "sold out"
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by cowboy71 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:33 pm

      Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
      Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
      Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
      Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
      Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
      Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
      Promenade View 2T / 168 /
      Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
      Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

      --------------------------------------------------------
      Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
      Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
      Ocean View 2N / 69 /
      Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
      Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
      Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
      Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
      Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
      --------------------------------------------------------
      Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
      Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
      Standard Balcony 2D / 252 /
      Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /

      Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
      Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
      Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
      Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
      --------------------------------------------------------

      Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
      Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
      Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
      Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
      Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ??? / ?? / ?? / ??? / 4 /
      Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

      Number of cabins in sold out categories: 337
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by Pellaz » Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:55 pm

      cowboy71 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:17 pm
      Tiki108 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:13 pm I feel like within a week or two of all public sales it'll get the sold out stamp.
      I dont see it moving that quick. I think there will definitely be more opportunity for newcomers this year, but with everything so late I just dont see, especially non-US cruisers, booking.

      Because, newbies will not have risked booking flights or accommodation yet without a cabin confirmed. And if you look at flights now they are REALLY expensive.

      So I think the 'sold out' sign will go up in the final 3 days, with it being anyones guess as to whether it truly IS "sold out"
      Concur. It will be "sold out" but not really sold out.
      Unlike that year when they had to hang out the "Waiting List" shingle because they were actually sold out. ;)
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by Sgt. B » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:53 pm

      cowboy71 wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:33 pm .......

      Number of cabins in sold out categories: 337
      Do you have an estimate on the total number of available cabins before sales started? Curious what percentage sold it is
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by cowboy71 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:13 pm

      Sgt. B wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:53 pm
      cowboy71 wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:33 pm .......

      Number of cabins in sold out categories: 337
      Do you have an estimate on the total number of available cabins before sales started? Curious what percentage sold it is
      Total count LAST TIME was 1877. As noted there seem to be a few .... "unaccounted for" this time around - but for what its worth I put the count at 1,834 cabins.
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by cowboy71 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:03 pm

      Standard Interior 3V quads gone - 121 of them

      Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
      Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
      Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
      Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
      Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
      Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
      Promenade View 2T / 168 /
      Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
      Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

      --------------------------------------------------------
      Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
      Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
      Ocean View 2N / 69 /
      Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
      Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
      Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
      Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
      Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
      --------------------------------------------------------
      Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
      Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
      Standard Balcony 2D / 252 /
      Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /

      Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
      Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
      Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
      Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
      --------------------------------------------------------

      Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
      Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
      Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
      Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
      Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ??? / ?? / ?? / ??? / 4 /
      Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

      Number of cabins in sold out categories: 458
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      -/-Del-Amitri-/-Stryper-/-Skid-Row-/-Masters-Of-Rock-CZ-/-70K-2024-/-
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by cowboy71 » Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:25 pm

      Several of the room types with unknown quantities have sold out.

      Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
      Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
      Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
      Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
      Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
      Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
      Promenade View 2T / 168 /
      Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
      Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

      --------------------------------------------------------
      Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
      Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
      Ocean View 2N / 69 /
      Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
      Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
      Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
      Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
      Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
      --------------------------------------------------------
      Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
      Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
      Standard Balcony 2D / 252 /
      Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /

      Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
      Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
      Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
      Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
      --------------------------------------------------------

      Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
      Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
      Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
      Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
      Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ??? / ?? / ?? / ??? / 4 /
      Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

      Number of cabins in sold out categories: 460
      Last edited by cowboy71 on Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:53 pm, edited 4 times in total.
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by Yippee38 » Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:02 pm

      How does that compare with the last cruise (or two)?
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by cowboy71 » Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:20 pm

      Yippee38 wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:02 pm How does that compare with the last cruise (or two)?
      2019 cruise, 6 hours after public sales opening:
      Total Cabins in sold out categories: 1572

      2020 cruise, 6 hours after public sales opening:
      Total Cabins in sold out categories: 787

      2023 cruise currently (about 5 1/2 hours after public sales opening):
      Total Cabins in sold out categories: 458

      Slower. Definitely slower. The fact that newbies can still opt for the 2nd-cheapest quad cabin is testament to that fact.
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by toby » Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:54 pm

      cowboy71 wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:20 pm Slower. Definitely slower. The fact that newbies can still opt for the 2nd-cheapest quad cabin is testament to that fact.
      Yeah, I'm kinda shocked that 2V is still available. It didn't seem like many sold out today that weren't already sold out.
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by Yippee38 » Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:00 pm

      cowboy71 wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:20 pm Slower. Definitely slower. The fact that newbies can still opt for the 2nd-cheapest quad cabin is testament to that fact.
      Well it's great that there are still cheaper options available. Maybe that will convince people who were on the fence to attend.

      It's interesting that as the announcements get later, the sales go slower.
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by toby » Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:50 am

      Yippee38 wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:00 pm
      cowboy71 wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:20 pm Slower. Definitely slower. The fact that newbies can still opt for the 2nd-cheapest quad cabin is testament to that fact.
      Well it's great that there are still cheaper options available. Maybe that will convince people who were on the fence to attend.

      It's interesting that as the announcements get later, the sales go slower.
      Kind of expected, IMO. 2020 was an outlier because there was no reason to think it wouldn't happen at that time. But this time, I don't think as many people believed it was going to really happen with the late band announcements. So, even though they could have made hotel and flight reservations, they didn't because there was no guarantee it would come together.
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by cowboy71 » Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:29 pm

      1V quads gone finally. **EDIT** and they are back. obviously only 1 or 2 available.
      1Ks all gone. 3N all gone

      Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
      Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
      Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
      Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
      Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
      Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
      Promenade View 2T / 168 /
      Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
      Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

      --------------------------------------------------------
      Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
      Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
      Ocean View 2N / 69 /
      Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
      Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
      Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
      Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
      Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
      --------------------------------------------------------
      Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
      Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
      Standard Balcony 2D / 252 /
      Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /

      Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
      Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
      Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
      Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
      --------------------------------------------------------

      Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
      Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
      Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
      Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
      Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ??? / ?? / ?? / ??? / 4 /
      Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

      Number of cabins in sold out categories: 510
      Upcoming Gigs:
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by Pellaz » Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:33 am

      cowboy71 wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:20 pm
      Yippee38 wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:02 pm How does that compare with the last cruise (or two)?
      2019 cruise, 6 hours after public sales opening:
      Total Cabins in sold out categories: 1572

      2020 cruise, 6 hours after public sales opening:
      Total Cabins in sold out categories: 787

      2023 cruise currently (about 5 1/2 hours after public sales opening):
      Total Cabins in sold out categories: 458

      Slower. Definitely slower. The fact that newbies can still opt for the 2nd-cheapest quad cabin is testament to that fact.
      Gonna be an interesting year. And as I intimated on the Facebook group, there's a chance it will be the last.
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by cowboy71 » Fri Dec 02, 2022 12:52 pm

      1V quads back again.
      OS doubles gone again.

      Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
      Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
      Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
      Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
      Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
      Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
      Promenade View 2T / 168 /
      Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
      Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

      --------------------------------------------------------
      Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
      Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
      Ocean View 2N / 69 /
      Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
      Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
      Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
      Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
      Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
      --------------------------------------------------------
      Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
      Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
      Standard Balcony 2D / 252 /
      Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /

      Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
      Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
      Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
      Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
      --------------------------------------------------------

      Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
      Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
      Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
      Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
      Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ??? / ?? / ?? / ??? / 4 /
      Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by cowboy71 » Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:27 pm

      Pellaz wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:33 am Gonna be an interesting year. And as I intimated on the Facebook group, there's a chance it will be the last.
      Things definitely going backwards. And unsurprisingly the later things start, the slower sales are!

      Remember back when survivors booked in July, public opened in SEPTEMBER, and the ship was all sold out a day later?

      2018
      Gold Bookings open July 7
      Public Bookings open Sept 22
      All sold out Sept 23
      2019
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      All sold out Oct 29
      2020
      Gold Bookings open Oct 22
      Public Bookings open Oct 26
      All sold out Dec 30
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by Downvod » Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:39 am

      I was revisiting the 2020 version of this thread. For a good while after public sales that year, there were a ton of cabin types available, and we were estimating it at about 75% sold (best case). Then, in mid-December, a ton of the cabin types started selling out in the middle of an announcement drought. Many suspected some kind of smoke and mirrors, but the listed guest count for that year was 3020, only 70 or so shy of the two previous years.

      Do we think the official stats are accurate or full of shit? I don’t recall 2020 being noticeably thin on people whilst on board. If they did have over 3,000 guests, how the hell did they manage to fill cabins so late? It will be interesting to see if the same happens again this time.
      70k 2016: Cabin 7279
      70k 2017: Cabin 6361
      70k 2018: Cabin 1704
      70k 2019: Cabin 1402
      70k 2020: Cabin 9220
      70k 2023: Cabin 1704

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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by cowboy71 » Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:07 pm

      Downvod wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:39 am I was revisiting the 2020 version of this thread. For a good while after public sales that year, there were a ton of cabin types available, and we were estimating it at about 75% sold (best case). Then, in mid-December, a ton of the cabin types started selling out in the middle of an announcement drought. Many suspected some kind of smoke and mirrors, but the listed guest count for that year was 3020, only 70 or so shy of the two previous years.

      Do we think the official stats are accurate or full of shit? I don’t recall 2020 being noticeably thin on people whilst on board. If they did have over 3,000 guests, how the hell did they manage to fill cabins so late? It will be interesting to see if the same happens again this time.
      Yeah maybe smoke and mirrors?

      MAYBE they threw out huge discount offers to industry people and filled the cabins that way?
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by cowboy71 » Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:11 pm

      2V doubles gone - that's a big 93 cabins off the market.

      Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
      Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
      Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
      Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
      Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
      Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
      Promenade View 2T / 168 /
      Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
      Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

      --------------------------------------------------------
      Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
      Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
      Ocean View 2N / 69 /
      Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
      Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
      Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
      Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
      Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
      --------------------------------------------------------
      Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
      Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
      Standard Balcony 2D / 252 /
      Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /
      Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
      Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
      Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
      Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
      --------------------------------------------------------

      Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
      Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
      Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
      Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
      Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ??? / ?? / ?? / ??? / 4 /
      Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

      Number of cabins in sold out categories: 603
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by cowboy71 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:32 pm

      2D doubles gone - that's a massive 252 cabins off the market.

      Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
      Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
      Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
      Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
      Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
      Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
      Promenade View 2T / 168 /
      Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
      Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

      --------------------------------------------------------
      Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
      Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
      Ocean View 2N / 69 /
      Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
      Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
      Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
      Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
      Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
      --------------------------------------------------------
      Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
      Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
      Standard Balcony 2D / 252 /
      Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /
      Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
      Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
      Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
      Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
      --------------------------------------------------------

      Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
      Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
      Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
      Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
      Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ??? / ?? / ?? / ??? / 4 /
      Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

      Number of cabins in sold out categories: 855
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by Downvod » Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:41 pm

      cowboy71 wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:32 pm 2D doubles gone - that's a massive 252 cabins off the market.

      Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
      Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
      Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
      Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
      Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
      Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
      Promenade View 2T / 168 /
      Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
      Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

      --------------------------------------------------------
      Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
      Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
      Ocean View 2N / 69 /
      Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
      Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
      Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
      Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
      Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
      --------------------------------------------------------
      Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
      Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
      Standard Balcony 2D / 252 /
      Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /
      Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
      Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
      Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
      Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
      --------------------------------------------------------

      Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
      Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
      Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
      Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
      Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ??? / ?? / ?? / ??? / 4 /
      Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

      Number of cabins in sold out categories: 855
      I am trying to figure out why would anyone would book 2D doubles if the 4B is still available. The 4B is a larger version of the 2D for the exact same price.
      70k 2016: Cabin 7279
      70k 2017: Cabin 6361
      70k 2018: Cabin 1704
      70k 2019: Cabin 1402
      70k 2020: Cabin 9220
      70k 2023: Cabin 1704

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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by cowboy71 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:01 pm

      Yeah you got me. I got NO idea :lol:
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by Pharaoh » Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:27 am

      Downvod wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:41 pm I am trying to figure out why would anyone would book 2D doubles if the 4B is still available. The 4B is a larger version of the 2D for the exact same price.
      Could be that they had a preferred deck selection? I don't remember how much difference there is on that with 2D vs. 4B.

      Or, maybe all the 4Bs were reserved in the initial booking rush and then some canceled.

      I've got a 4B. So I can ultimately only speculate.
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by toby » Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:17 am

      Pharaoh wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:27 am
      Downvod wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:41 pm I am trying to figure out why would anyone would book 2D doubles if the 4B is still available. The 4B is a larger version of the 2D for the exact same price.
      Could be that they had a preferred deck selection? I don't remember how much difference there is on that with 2D vs. 4B.

      Or, maybe all the 4Bs were reserved in the initial booking rush and then some canceled.

      I've got a 4B. So I can ultimately only speculate.
      Or maybe a specific cabin selection because that's what they had on a previous cruise? Who knows. It's like asking why some Gold survivors waited until public sales to book. People are funny. lol
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by cowboy71 » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:42 pm

      1V Quads gone again. 17 cabins off the market.
      2V Doubles opened up again. Can only be a handful available. EDIT gone again.

      Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
      Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
      Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
      Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
      Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
      Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
      Promenade View 2T / 168 /
      Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
      Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

      --------------------------------------------------------
      Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
      Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
      Ocean View 2N / 69 /
      Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
      Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
      Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
      Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
      Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
      --------------------------------------------------------
      Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
      Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
      Standard Balcony 2D / 252 /
      Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /
      Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
      Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
      Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
      Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
      --------------------------------------------------------

      Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
      Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
      Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
      Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
      Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ??? / ?? / ?? / ??? / 4 /
      Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

      Number of cabins in sold out categories: 873
      Single Male categories available: 8
      Single Female categories available: 10
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by Pellaz » Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:26 am

      cowboy71 wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:01 pm Yeah you got me. I got NO idea :lol:
      Maybe it's all the n00bs not knowing any better?

      I'm happy I got a regular ol' balcony cabin... Except that ours is extended, at the back of the ship, and high on the side so we get a great view. --Unlike those pricey suites in the middle, who get a view of...a metal deck and metal fairing. :D
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      Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

      by Tiki108 » Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:26 am

      cowboy71 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:17 pm
      Tiki108 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:13 pm I feel like within a week or two of all public sales it'll get the sold out stamp.
      I dont see it moving that quick. I think there will definitely be more opportunity for newcomers this year, but with everything so late I just dont see, especially non-US cruisers, booking.

      Because, newbies will not have risked booking flights or accommodation yet without a cabin confirmed. And if you look at flights now they are REALLY expensive.

      So I think the 'sold out' sign will go up in the final 3 days, with it being anyones guess as to whether it truly IS "sold out"
      Yeah, I was more thinking of when the sold out sign goes up, but I've noticed there's always a lot of "join the waitlist" stuff and I've always wondered if it's truly ever sold out 100%. I feel like you got the stats on it once and found one of them truly did sell out? Maybe I'm misremembering though.
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        Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

        by cowboy71 » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:36 am

        Tiki108 wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:26 am
        Yeah, I was more thinking of when the sold out sign goes up, but I've noticed there's always a lot of "join the waitlist" stuff and I've always wondered if it's truly ever sold out 100%. I feel like you got the stats on it once and found one of them truly did sell out? Maybe I'm misremembering though.
        You are absolutely correct one year - 2018 - the 'waitlist' sign went up and there was nothing available late september, days after public sales started and MONTHS prior to sailing. There was zero doubt THAT iteration definitely DID sell out.
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        Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

        by Pellaz » Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:56 am

        cowboy71 wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:36 am
        Tiki108 wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:26 am
        Yeah, I was more thinking of when the sold out sign goes up, but I've noticed there's always a lot of "join the waitlist" stuff and I've always wondered if it's truly ever sold out 100%. I feel like you got the stats on it once and found one of them truly did sell out? Maybe I'm misremembering though.
        You are absolutely correct one year - 2018 - the 'waitlist' sign went up and there was nothing available late september, days after public sales started and MONTHS prior to sailing. There was zero doubt THAT iteration definitely DID sell out.
        Yep, I remember that. It was unlike any previous year and we had no doubts that it was majorly different...and sold out. Not every stateroom, of course, but they were at muster-station capacity.
        They HAVE to have some extra unused staterooms anyway...to store the emergency backup beer supplies. :D
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        Re: How fast will 2023 sell out?

        by Tiki108 » Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:16 am

        Pellaz wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:56 am
        Yep, I remember that. It was unlike any previous year and we had no doubts that it was majorly different...and sold out. Not every stateroom, of course, but they were at muster-station capacity.
        They HAVE to have some extra unused staterooms anyway...to store the emergency backup beer supplies. :D
        I actually met a former RCCL employee that had worked 70k and I asked if it was true about them over stocking the boat with booze and she said how the crew areas are so difficult to get through because the halls are just lined with cases of booze cause they have to over stock so much.

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